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A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

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Paul
Whisky Quebec

Re: A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

Message par Paul le Lun 26 Jan 2015 - 18:28

Excepté que le projet n'est pas dirigé par Airbus cette fois, c'est PacAvi.

Poncho (Admin)
Whisky Charlie

Re: A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Lun 26 Jan 2015 - 18:38

Oui effectivement. 
L'essentiel étant d'avoir je pense le p2f au catalogue quand même

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Whisky Charlie

Re: A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Dim 8 Fév 2015 - 15:14

Est-ce qu'un A321 97t peut remplacer les 757 fregihter ?

Un 757 P2F c'est 32 t de CU (15 palettes 88*125 = 187 m3) à 3150 Nm

Un A321P2F c'est 13 palettes (162 m3) + une soute automatisable pas ridicule.
En 2010 c'était 25.5t de CU pour 83 t de mtow et 2100 Nm... là ça a du changer

Ce qui est étonnant sur la doc PACAVI http://pacavi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/PACAVI-LAYOUT-A321-DataTearSheet-10302014.pdf : la porte est de nouveau à l'avant ?

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Whisky Charlie

Re: A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 24 Fév 2016 - 23:45

Bon point PACAVI :
http://pacavi.com/pacavi-group-and-gameco-expand-airbus-a320a321-passenger-to-freighter-conversion-partnership-preliminary-design-review-completed/

SAN DIEGO and GUANGZHOU, February 10, 2016 — The PACAVI Group and GAMECO (Guangzhou Aircraft Maintenance Engineering, Co., Ltd.) report that both companies are on track being first to market with their joint Airbus A320/A321 Passenger-to-Freighter conversion in 2017.

A priori le travail sur le premier proto à commencé en janvier 2015 ... alors qu'on n'est qu'au stade de la Préliminary Design Review ?


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Paul
Whisky Quebec

Re: A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

Message par Paul le Jeu 25 Fév 2016 - 0:10


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Whisky Charlie

Re: A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Jeu 25 Fév 2016 - 0:37

Oui oui (et j'en ai des plus vieilles avec la porte à l'arrière, cf ci-dessus)
Bien complexe tout ça !


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Laurent Simon
Whisky Quebec

Re: A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

Message par Laurent Simon le Jeu 21 Juil 2016 - 11:12

Airbus Relaunches A320/321 PTF Conversion

http://aviationweek.com/paris-air-show-2015/airbus-relaunches-a320321-ptf-conversion

Extraits de l'article :

"Airbus is teaming up with Singapore-based MRO provider ST Aerospace (ST Aero) and Elbe Flugzeugwerke (EFW) to give the passenger-to-freighter (P2F) conversion of its A320/A321 aircraft a second try. Airbus is forecasting a demand for more than 600 narrowbodies to be converted to freighters over the next 20 years. Most of the demand will come from Asia, specifically China, and the U.S.
The first, failed attempt dates from 2011 and was in cooperation with EFW and Russian aerospace firms United Aircraft and Irkut.
Tom Williams, Airbus chief operating officer, said the first program would have created the best P2F aircraft. But he acknowledged: “We had a rather overdesigned solution and costs were too high. And the residual value of the A320 was working against us.”
Airbus had the lead in 2011, but this time ST Aero will have the program and technical lead in the development phase.

Airbus will provide OEM data and certification support, and can help with the feedstock, according to Williams, who said that there are “plenty” of A320/A321s available with the right conversion window (between 15 and 20 years of age). EFW will be responsible for the marketing and sales, and lead the industrialization process. Airbus, ST Aero and EFW already collaborate on the A330 freighter conversions.
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Airbus positions the A320P2F as a competitor to the converted Boeing 737-400/-800 and the A321P2F as a competitor to the 757SF.
“This is the only Airbus-supported A320-family freighter conversion program, and as such will take full benefit of our inherent design knowledge of the aircraft, our engineering know-how, as well as the extensive operational experience from the thousands of Airbus single-aisle aircraft in service today,” Williams noted.
For Serh Ghee Lim, president of ST Aerospace, the “A320P2F and the A321P2F will be excellent workhorses which would offer aircraft operators great value and efficiency.” He expects a conversion will take up to three months to complete.
The A320/A321 P2F program follows the launch of the A330 P2P conversion in 2013
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Laurent Simon
Whisky Quebec

Re: A320 conversions cargo (P2F)

Message par Laurent Simon le Jeu 21 Juil 2016 - 12:34

14 palettes, et non 13, pour l'A321 PTF,et 27 t sur 3 515 km (1 900 N)
11 palettes pour l'A320 PTF,                et 21 t sur 3 885 km (2 100 N)

"The A320P2F, with 11 main-deck container positions, will have the capacity to carry 21 metric tons of payload over 2,100 nm (2,417 mi.),
while the larger A321 variant with 14 main-deck positions will be able to carry up to 27 metric tons over 1,900 nm (2,187 mi.).

Airbus positions the A320P2F as a competitor to the converted Boeing 737-400/-800 and the A321P2F as a competitor to the 757SF.
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