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London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 1 Juil 2015 - 12:17

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/01/britain-airports-idUSL8N0ZH07M20150701

Après examen des possibilités qui s'offre, une troisième piste à LHR semble la meilleurs option pour garantir l'attractivité de la région londonienne

Il s'agit de conclusion d'expert... reste à voir les politiques...

La troisième piste ça serait ça

http://www.heathrowairport.com/about-us/company-news-and-information/airports-commission/our-proposal



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Message par vonrichthoffen le Jeu 27 Oct 2016 - 17:01

Le projet de troisième piste se concrétise :


Government decides on new runway at Heathrow

From:Department for Transport and The Rt Hon Chris Grayling MPFirst published:25 October 2016Part of:Heathrow Airport expansion and Aviation and airports
Government Heathrow Airport announcement.


  • expanding Heathrow will better connect the UK to long haul destinations in growing world markets, boosting trade and creating jobs
  • passengers will benefit from more choice of airlines, destinations and flights
  • expansion at Heathrow will be subject to a world class package of compensation and mitigation measures for local communities


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In a major boost for the UK economy the government today (25 October 2016) announced its support for a new runway at Heathrow – the first full length runway in the south-east since the second world war. The scheme will now be taken forward in the form of a draft ‘National policy statement’ ( NPS ) for consultation.
The government’s decision on its preferred location, which will be consulted on in the new year, underlines its commitment to keeping the UK open for business now and in the future and as a hub for tourism and trade. Today’s decision is a central part of the government’s plan to build a global Britain and an economy that works for everyone. This is just one of a series of major infrastructure investments that will create jobs and opportunities for every part of the UK .
A new runway at Heathrow will bring economic benefits to passengers and the wider economy worth up to £61 billion. Up to 77,000 additional local jobs are expected to be created over the next 14 years and the airport has committed to create 5,000 new apprenticeships over the same period.
Transport Secretary Chris Grayling said:
The step that government is taking today is truly momentous. I am proud that after years of discussion and delay this government is taking decisive action to secure the UK ’s place in the global aviation market- securing jobs and business opportunities for the next decade and beyond.
A new runway at Heathrow will improve connectivity in the UK itself and crucially boost our connections with the rest of the world, supporting exports, trade and job opportunities. This isn’t just a great deal for business, it’s a great deal for passengers who will also benefit from access to more airlines, destinations and flights.
This is an important issue for the whole country. That is why the government’s preferred scheme will be subject to full and fair public consultation. Of course it is also hugely important for those living near the airport. That is why we have made clear that expansion will only be allowed to proceed on the basis of a world class package of compensation and mitigation worth up to £2.6 billion, including community support, insulation, and respite from noise – balancing the benefits and the impacts of expansion.
Expansion at the airport will better connect the UK to long haul destinations across the globe and to growing world markets including in Asia and South America, bringing a significant boost to trade.
Heathrow already handles more freight by value than all other UK airports combined, accounting for 31% of the UK ’s non- EU trade, and its expansion will create even more opportunities for UK business to get their goods to new markets.
While there are clear gains for business, passengers will also benefit from a greater choice of airlines, destinations and flight times. The Airports Commission, chaired by Sir Howard Davies, anticipated that a new runway would bring in new capacity to meet demand and allow greater levels of competition, lowering fares even after taking into account the costs of construction.
Expansion costs will be paid for by the private sector, not by the taxpayer. It will be for the Civil Aviation Authority ( CAA ), as the independent industry regulator, to work with Heathrow Airport Ltd and airlines operating at the airport, on the detailed design and costs to ensure the scheme remains affordable. The government expects the industry to work together to drive down costs to benefit passengers. The aim should be to deliver a plan for expansion that keeps landing charges close to current levels.
This new runway will deliver major economic and strategic benefits to the UK , but it must be delivered without hitting passengers in the pocket. The Airports Commission was clear that this is achievable as is the CAA .
A third runway will also support new connections to the UK ’s regions as well as safeguarding existing domestic routes.
Heathrow has proposed a further 6 new routes to Belfast International, Liverpool, Newquay, Humberside, Prestwick and Durham Tees Valley to be added after expansion. The 8 existing routes offered today are: Edinburgh, Glasgow, Inverness, Aberdeen, Belfast City, Manchester, Newcastle and Leeds Bradford. This would provide 14 domestic routes in total, and spread benefits right across the country.
Government will also take all necessary steps including, where appropriate, ring-fencing a suitable proportion of new slots for domestic routes, to ensure enhanced connectivity within the UK .
Despite the increase in flights Heathrow Airport Ltd has made firm commitments to noise reduction.

  • The government will propose that a six-and-a-half hour ban on scheduled night flights will be introduced for the first time at Heathrow and will make more stringent night noise restrictions a requirement of expansion. The timing of this ban will be determined through consultation.

  • Furthermore, the government proposes new legally binding noise targets, encouraging the use of quieter planes, and a more reliable and predictable timetable of respite for those living under the final flight path. The airport has also pledged to provide over £700 million for noise insulation for residential properties.

    • In addition, modernising use of our air space will boost the sector and will help to further reduce noise and carbon emissions. Proposals will be brought forward to support improvements to airspace and how to manage noise, including the way in which affected communities can best be engaged and whether there is a role for a new independent aviation noise body as the Airports Commission recommended.
    • The Airports Commission concluded that even with the extra flights added by the airport’s expansion fewer people would be affected by noise from Heathrow by 2030 than are today.

    Following the clear recommendation of the Airports Commission the government conducted more work on the environmental impact. That work is now complete and confirms that a new runway at Heathrow is deliverable within air quality limits, if necessary mitigation measures are put in place, in line with the ‘National air quality plan’, published in December 2015.
    The UK has already achieved significant improvements in air quality across a range of pollutants. Emissions of nitrogen oxides in the UK fell by 41% between 2005 and 2014. Heathrow’s scheme includes plans for improved public transport links and for an ultra-low emissions zone for all airport vehicles by 2025. The government will make meeting air quality legal requirements a condition of planning approval.
    A draft NPS setting out why the government believes this scheme is the right one for the UK will be published in the new year when the public will be consulted on the proposals.

    Facts

    An extra runway at Heathrow will deliver:

    • economic benefits to passengers and the wider economy worth up to £61 billion over 60 years
    • lower fares relative to no expansion, fewer delays, better connections to destinations including to Asia and South America
    • up to 77,000 additional local jobs created by 2030
    • Heathrow have committed to 5,000 new apprenticeships by 2030
    • an extra 16 million long haul passenger seats in 2040
    • 6 new regional routes proposed by Heathrow – giving 14 in total
    • following consultation a six-and-a-half hour ban on scheduled night flights will be introduced for the first time at Heathrow
    • a mitigation package for the local community most affected by expansion worth up to £2.6 billionThis includes:

      • people with homes subject to compulsory purchase receiving 125% of full market value for their homes, plus stamp duty, legal fees and moving costs
      • a package of over £700 million of noise insulation for homes
      • £40 million to insulate and ventilate schools and other community buildings

      In addition, up to £450 million could be available to local authorities through business rate retention. A Community Compensation Fund could make a further £750 million available to local communities. This will be determined through the planning process.

      Further information

      Heathrow Airport expansion: background and technical reports.
      Airport expansion will be delivered through a thorough, faster planning process, under the 2008 Planning Act and 2011 Localism Act. The government will set out the airport scheme it wants, along with supporting evidence, in its NPS . Public and Members of Parliament will be consulted and there will be a vote in the House of Commons. This will be followed by a planning application by the airport to the Planning Inspector who will take a view and advise government of his decision. Final sign off will be by the Secretary of State for Transport and then construction will start.
      In time a new runway will also require the redesign of the airport’s flightpaths. This will form part of a wider programme of airspace modernisation which is already needed across the country in the coming years. The government expects to consult in the new year on a range of national proposals covering noise and airspace.
      Expansion at Heathrow Airport Ltd will be accompanied by a comprehensive package of mitigation measures which will be subject to consultation with the public as part of the draft NPS consultation process. The measures will also be subject to regulatory approval by the CAA .
      The Department for Transport has also set up a working group with Her Majesty’s Treasury and the Department for the Environment Food and Rural Affairs on air quality. This is part of a 10 year project to accelerate improvements in air quality.
      Today’s announcement follows an unprecedented UN global agreement achieved earlier this month to combat aviation emissions. Under the deal, airlines will offset their emissions with reductions from other sectors to deliver carbon neutral growth for the aviation sector from 2020. The government believes that a new runway at Heathrow can be delivered within the UK ’s carbon obligations.Meanwhile, the government wants to see the continued prosperity of the UK ’s second busiest airport, and the world’s busiest single runway airport, Gatwick. Its continued success will drive competition in the sector, which is good for passengers and the prosperity of the nation, drawing inward investment, trade and growth.
      The Airports Commission lead by Sir Howard Davies, was set up in September 2012. It published its final report in July 2015. In December 2015 the then Secretary of State for Transport Sir Patrick McLoughlin announced that government accepted the case for airport expansion in the south-east and the Airports Commission’s shortlist of options for expansion.

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      Published:25 October 2016
      From:Department for TransportThe Rt Hon Chris Grayling MPPart of:Heathrow Airport expansionAviation and airports



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Poncho (Admin)
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Jeu 27 Oct 2016 - 21:21

Merci

Il faut raser 3 villages...


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aubla
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par aubla le Ven 28 Oct 2016 - 5:10

On pourrait peut-être leur envoyer
nos ZADistes
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Jeannot
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Jeannot le Ven 28 Oct 2016 - 11:35

Voici une image qui montre bien l'implantation de ce nouveau runway et l'impact sur les villages existants.



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Whisky Charlie

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Ven 28 Oct 2016 - 14:50

Je ne sais pas, mais ça peut faire un paquet de mécontent

Et ça pèse lourdement dans le budget (3 milliards à peu près pour les expro)


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Message par vonrichthoffen le Ven 28 Oct 2016 - 17:19

Les seules zones humides susceptibles ici d'être détruites sont des chiottes et des salles de bains.
L'humanité n'étant pas en voie de disparition immédiate, le déménagement des populations locales fera de la place pour les petits lapins. Les gens expropriés devraient y gagner à aller habiter ailleurs.
Je reste dubitatif quant aux mesures d'isolation phonique, pour que ce soit efficace, il faut vivre cloîtré. Les perdants devraient donc se compter parmi ceux qui ne seront pas expropriés.
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Whisky Charlie

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Ven 28 Oct 2016 - 17:56

C'est une vision assez étonnante.

Je dis juste que parfois la planification à la Française (CDG) ou à la batave (Schipol) a du bon.

C'est bien 3 milliards d'euros de compensation "sociales"
C'est un joli montant


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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Lun 9 Jan 2017 - 11:42

Le Bruit à Heathrow

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-heathrow-braces-for-battle-over-noise-432461/?sfid=701w0000000uP3H&cmpid=SOC|Twitter|Flightglobal|sf50008706&CMPID=sf50008706

Qui va devenir un sujet de préoccupation majeur dans le mesure où avec le 3ème piste (qui n'est pas gagnée hein) il y aura plus de personnes impactées... Celles qui sont déjà impactées pourront l'être moins, mais les ça sera une dégradation nette pour ceux qui seront nouvellement impactés


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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Paul le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 11:46

La troisième piste est approuvée par le gouvernement


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Whisky Charlie

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 12:21

Merci

Reste à voir la deadline ...


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Message par c.foussa le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 13:39

Mis à part quelques propos insultants sur l'expropriation de chiottes et de salles de bain (von richtoffen et sans majuscules), le choix de la 3 ème piste au nord ouest est intéressant à plus d'un titre dont le bruit vu que la majorité des départs ouest est vers le nord ouest.

Il a été publié une étude officielle sur les possibilités d'extension d' Heathrow, je ne l'ai plus.

Voici qq vues du projet avec la piste NW:









Les autres versions:




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Whisky Quebec

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par c.foussa le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 13:53

c.foussa a écrit:Mis à part quelques propos insultants sur l'expropriation de chiottes et de salles de bain (von richtoffen et sans majuscules), le choix de la 3 ème piste au nord ouest est intéressant à plus d'un titre dont le bruit vu que la majorité des départs ouest est vers le nord ouest.

Il a été publié une étude officielle sur les possibilités d'extension d' Heathrow, je ne l'ai plus.



La voici:

https://www.heathrow.com/file_source/HeathrowNoise/Static/a_new_approach_2014.pdf
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Beochien le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 14:21

Mr Von Richthoffen a plus de dix ans ici., et chez Aweb, comme certains d'entre nous ...
Et je regrettes de ne pas le voir plus souvent, maintenant.
Respectable entre tous ...

Si C.Foussa n'est même pas capable de distinguer ses pointes d'humour ...  Rolling Eyes
Et continue de faire fuir, une bonne part des acteurs du forum ... Avionvol 
A dieu va ... Les balais de chiottes à la relève ...
Dommage, j'apprécias vos pertinences C. Foussa.
Drôle de virage !


Dernière édition par Beochien le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 14:37, édité 2 fois
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Whisky Quebec

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par c.foussa le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 14:37

Beochien a écrit:Mr Von Richthoffen a plus de dix ans ici., et chez Aweb, comme certains d'entre nous ...
Et je regrettes de ne pas le voir plus souvent, maintenant.

Si C.Foussa n'est même pas capable de distinguer ses pointes d'humour ...
Et continue de faire fuir, une bonne part des acteurs du forum ...
A dieu vat …


C'est me faire trop d'honneur que je ne mérite pas.

Reviens sur terre, Béo.
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Whisky Charlie

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Beochien le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 14:42

Non, le statut précédent de convivialité sur Avia, qui était assez stable, est sérieusement affecté par vos déclarations intempestives (Et le mot est faible ...)
Perso, j'ai réduit la voilure de 80 % et plus, d'autres sont pratiquement partis ... 

La preuve par l'absurde pourrait être une étape nécessaire ...

Comme je l'ai dit, allez y ... Continuez !

Perso, je m'économise 2 heures de boulot par jour, et ça commence à me plaire ...


Dernière édition par Beochien le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 15:15, édité 1 fois
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Whisky Quebec

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par c.foussa le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 14:57

Quelques infos officielles sur la "mitigation" des nuisances sonores d' Heathrow. (2 h de pseudo silence, c'est appréciable)



https://www.heathrow.com/noise/heathrow-operations/runway-alternation 

https://www.heathrow.com/file_source/HeathrowNoise/Static/Operations_Handbook_January_2018.pdf


Le système d"alternation" des pistes pour 2018:



https://www.heathrow.com/file_source/HeathrowNoise/Static/Runway_Alternation_Programme_2018.pdf
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Whisky Charlie

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 5 Juin 2018 - 19:52

Si ça se trouve on se connaît tous d'Aweb

Si ça se trouve on déjà fait la guerre ou l'amour là bas

Si ça se trouve (c'est important de répéter 3 fois)

J'avais loupé la remarque caustique de von richthoffen

Je retour de c.foussa est musclé

Et toi Beo ben ça ne t'as pas échappé... moi peut être plus que toi, parce que notamment je n'ai plus le temps et l'énergie pour animer correctement le forum

Si il y a des commentaires, des problèmes je suis toujours disponible en MP pour voir comment arranger les choses...

Et Beo, profites-en! c'est un affreu bouffe temps ce forum. Vivement la retraite ;d

(Et soyez sages)


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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par eolien le Mer 6 Juin 2018 - 8:57

Poncho (Admin) a écrit:Si ça se trouve on se connaît tous d'Aweb

Si ça se trouve on déjà fait la guerre ou l'amour là bas

Si ça se trouve (c'est important de répéter 3 fois)

J'avais loupé la remarque caustique de von richthoffen

Je retour de c.foussa est musclé

Et toi Beo ben ça ne t'as pas échappé... moi peut être plus que toi, parce que notamment je n'ai plus le temps et l'énergie pour animer correctement le forum

Si il y a des commentaires, des problèmes je suis toujours disponible en MP pour voir comment arranger les choses...

Et Beo, profites-en! c'est un affreu bouffe temps ce forum. Vivement la retraite ;d

(Et soyez sages)
Bof ... si on les mettait autour d'une bière, je suis sûr que ça se passerait bien ...  tchin  ils ont plus de points communs que de divergences ... notamment, et surtout, la passion de l'Aviation !...
Un malentendu.


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Whisky Charlie

Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 6 Juin 2018 - 9:18

Oui, viendez dans le dauphiné qu'on se la prenne cette bière !

C'est une bonne idée faut que je la travaille


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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par eolien le Mer 6 Juin 2018 - 9:30

Oui, une bonne idée ... Laughing 



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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 6 Juin 2018 - 10:27

Very Happy


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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par c.foussa le Mer 6 Juin 2018 - 12:06

Que voulez vous, je n'aime pas le ronron bien pensant..Faut savoir affirmer ses convictions et que de gamineries... biere
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR)

Message par c.foussa le Mer 6 Juin 2018 - 12:46

La nouvelle tour de contrôle est déjà bien située car dans la partie ouest de l'aéroport. Une courte visite de cette tour d'où on ne contrôle que les décollages et atterrissages. Le reste du vol est contrôlé depuis le centre du NATS à Swanwick au bord de la Manche à Southampton et qui contrôle la 1/2 sud du Royaume Uni, l'autre 1/2 nord est contrôlée à Prestwick en Ecosse (Centre de Shanwick).

C'était mon tout 1 er métier casque  




 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgV09Ts7-H8





Le Centre de Swanwick:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlT1gSt2-gs


Edit: visite plus longue de Swanwick:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4E0jzeRCdI&t=490s

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