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    Sukhoi Superjet 100


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    Message par Beochien Mer 23 Juin 2010 - 16:09

    Bonjour !

    J'ai du le poster il y a qq semaines ...
    Snecma a dû largement reprendre en main la fab du SAM 146!
    NPO Saturn ne s'en sortant pas !

    D'ou un article assez pessimistes côté ramp up de la production du Superjet 100, faute de moteurs !

    Assez typique des habitudes Russes, copiées en Europe et aux USA, ils ont fait école !

    Pas trop encourageant du côté du MS 21, qui a pas mal tourné en rond aussi !

    --------------Re Flight Global pour les réfs !-------------------

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/12/28/336645/sukhoi-to-revise-superjet-service-entry-schedule.html

    Sukhoi to revise Superjet service entry schedule
    By Tom Zaitsev

    Market entry of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 appears to be slipping towards the third quarter of 2010 because of delays in commencing serial production of the PowerJet SaM146 engine.

    Sukhoi says its revised schedule to deliver the first Superjet examples to launch customers Aeroflot and Armavia, to be released over the next week, hinges on the supply of serially-built powerplants.

    Sources at Sukhoi have expressed doubts that engines to equip first serial Superjets could be shipped sooner than July.

    Russian industry and trade minister Viktor Khristenko has indicated that training of pilots for the new type should begin in the spring ahead of the Superjet's entry into commercial service, due to take place by the middle of 2010.

    State Duma transport committee member Anatoly Lisitsyn expects Rybinsk-based NPO Saturn, a partner in PowerJet, to begin producing SaM146s in summer and build about 15 of them next year.

    C'est quoi cette connerie ... this year ou next year ???

    JPRS

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 23 Juin 2010 - 16:31

    Salut Béochien

    Vue de 2009... 2010 c'est bien next year non ?

    Beochien
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    Message par Beochien Mer 23 Juin 2010 - 16:57

    Vous avez raison Poncho !

    Une année glauque, dans la vue (Pour moi ! )
    Par contre, la panique côté moteurs, cela a été vu cette année, Snecma, les mains dans le cambouis !

    JPRS
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 23 Juin 2010 - 17:07

    Ouaip
    Mais ils semblent avoir pris le taureau par les cornes !

    Et cet avion pourrait être une vraie bonne surprise... a suivre notamment sur le marché intérieur la comparaison avec les Antonov An148 et dérivés.


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    Message par Beochien Mer 23 Juin 2010 - 17:42

    Re Poncho !

    Ils vont être loin des Bombardier, Séries C ... et autres Mitsu MRJ ...
    Mais pour leurs marchés locaux , ça peut suffire !
    Et contre les ARJ 21, CF 34 dans leur état actuel, ils devraient faire mieux .... contre Embraer peut être aussi !

    Snecma n'a pas été assez ambitieux ... un compromis d'études un peu vite fait avec du "On the shelf" il n'y avait pas de moyens, ni de budget des 2 côtés pour faire vraiment mieux que ce SAM 164, dommage, c'est comme ça !

    120+ d'avions vendus, ce n'est pas si mal, à suivre pour les marchés sattellites, pas trop d'illusions pour la vraie "Export", les prix aideront, mais les consos, pas trop !

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 23 Juin 2010 - 17:48

    Ouaip

    Pour l'instant dans cette catégorie y a que le MRJ de vraiment neuf...
    Par rapport aux Ejet... et CRJ ça devrait être bon non ?


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    Message par Beochien Mer 23 Juin 2010 - 17:54

    Ben le C-Séries, le CS 100, il est à peine au dessus !
    Et il va consommer moins, c'est sûr !
    Mais il ne sera pas donné ....

    Par contre, le Superjet, il pourra se mesurer aux Embraer ERJ, et aux Bombardier, CRJ de sa catégorie, pendant qq années encore!

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    Message par Frequent Traveller Sam 3 Juil 2010 - 13:26

    http://www.investir.fr/infos-conseils-boursiers/infos-conseils-valeurs/infos/snecma-mise-sur-400-commandes-du-superjet-russe-263539.php

    Un lien du mois dernier, mais peut-être utile ?

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    Message par Frequent Traveller Sam 3 Juil 2010 - 16:07

    http://www.superjetinternational.com/export/sites/default/_resources/pdf/press-releases/LoI-Armavia-UK_.pdf

    Un link ancien, mais qui semble être passé sous silence, portant sur la Stratégie SAV de SJI ... pour ceux qui suivent de près les développements du SSJ.
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Sam 3 Juil 2010 - 23:03

    Merci FT

    Du dernier lien je sors les éléments intéressants ci-dessous
    Programme Pay by the Hour dispo pour le SSJ
    Un engagement nécessaire pour la crédibilité du programme

    The “SuperCare” Agreement is a comprehensive “pay-by-the-hour” program developed by SJI
    specifically for the SSJ100 aircraft. This innovative life cycle solution has been designed to maximize
    aircraft availability to operators and minimize their maintenance and administrative associated costs.
    In particular, Armavia will take advantage of customized spares availability and “single interface”
    maintenance/repair solutions of on-board equipments.
    “We are proud to work with Armavia on this agreement which represents the launch of the SuperJet
    International’s proprietary “SuperCare Plan” - said Giovanni Simonetti, Senior Vice President of
    Customers Services for SuperJet International – “Since its Entry into Service, Armavia SSJ100 fleet
    will be supported by SJI with this tailored and newly conceived after-sales package”.
    “We are delighted to pave the way for a long lasting and mutual beneficial relationship with SuperJet
    International by joining its SuperCare Plan since day one of entry into service of our brand new fleet
    of SSJ100” - said Mr. Norayr Shakratovich Belluyan, General Director of Armavia – “We consider
    such a ‘per flight hour’ program the right solution to boost our aircraft availability while optimizing

    costs”.


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    Message par Beochien Lun 12 Juil 2010 - 10:36

    Bonjour !

    Les hauts et les bas de la cde Alitalia !

    Flightglobal sort les preuves !

    http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flight-international/2010/07/alitalia-superjets-is-the-gatt.html

    Vivement Farnborough que l'on y voie clair!

    JPRS
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 13 Juil 2010 - 10:06

    Mais alors et les US ? pour le SSJ ?
    L'avion d'essai est bien bleu blanc rouge non ? Sukhoi Superjet 100 - Page 3 662529

    http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2010/07/superjet-poised-for-north-amer.html

    Un très long article



    Nearly a generation has passed since the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union, the bi-polar world of communist and capitalist economies has given way to an interconnected world of globalized competition and industrial integration often bolstered by state support.

    With the commercial jet aircraft manufacturing landscape having dwindled to just four players over the past decade, that trend of industrial consolidation is set to reverse itself in the years to come. Russian aircraft manufacturer Sukhoi, best known for its portfolio of fighter aircraft, is the first in a spate of new entrants to offer a jetliner assembled solely in the eastern hemisphere, but marketed to the world.

    Its product, the 100-seat SSJ100 aircraft, made its first flight from Komsomolsk-on-Aumr, Russia in May 2008. It is powered by two PowerJet SaM146 engines, and is the launch point of a new business model which aims to challenge the established airframers Embraer and Bombardier on a global battlefield, starting with entry into service by year's end with Russian flag carrier Aeroflot and Armenian carrier Armavia.

    As the first new entrant to step up to the plate, Suhkoi Civil Aircraft (SCAC) solidfied its strategic partnership with Alenia Aeronautica, the civil branch of Finnemeccanica, in June 2006 with a 75%/25% development split. A year later forming Superjet International, a Venice, Italy-based joint venture between Alenia (51%) and Sukhoi (49%) that took the reins on global marketing and product support.

    The road to it's year-end entry into service, like the Airbus A380 and Boeing 787, has faced two years of delay after its originally planned November 2008 first delivery slipped due to an over-optimistic development schedule and production issues on the aircraft's engine. The engine-maker now claims it is in control of those issues, and is now winding down its four-aircraft flight test program with the approaching first flight of its first production aircraft.

    With next week's Farnborough air show marking just over a year since the new 100 seater's western
    debut at the Paris air show, the Superjet is poised to announced new orders, including a fresh Letter of Intent from a North American lessor for up to 65.


    The lessor, who did not want to preempt a formal announcement at the air show, says that Superjet made a compelling technical and aftermarket case for the SSJ against its Brazilian and Canadian competitors, calling the SSJ the "best 100 seater on the horizon."

    That bold claim, says the lessor, is anchored by the aircraft's supplier list reads like a who's who of western aircraft manufacturing. While critics of the Superjet say the venture is no more than a state-funded exercise that defies natural market forces and an aviation anachronism amongst composite innovators, but that criticism ignores the reality of the underlying technology driving the program.

    The environmental and flight control systems are supplied by Liebherr, hydraulic system from Parker Hannafin, auxiliary power unit from Honeywell, Goodrich wheels, brakes and brake system controls, Messier-Dowty landing gear, Zodiac-Intertechnique fuel system and a PowerJet engine, a joint venture between Snecma and Russian engine maker Saturn NPO.

    Apture™️
    Sukhoi Superjet 100 - Page 3 3641981996_b37605010dSukhoi Superjet 100 - Page 3 Lic_c_gr by flightblogger

    Additionally, the Thales avionics are grounded on a foundation similar to the Airbus A380, says Superjet, with an Aircraft Full Duplex switched data network ( AFDX) and Integrated Modular Avionics ( IMA) core that exceeds its nearest competitors with full fly-by-wire architecture and RNP .3 precision navigation capability and CATIIIa autoland capability.

    The systems integration stands in contrast to Cold War-era Russian-made jetliners which exclusively used homegrown systems that lacked interoperability and had a reputation for being unreliable.

    The new engine in particular features Snecma technology built on the CFM56 integrated with Leap-X advantages, including one-third reduction in high pressure stages from 9 to 6, while Superjet claims a 12% fuel burn advantage over its single-class 100-seat competitors the Embraer E-190 and Bombardier CRJ900, driven by a lighter airframe with better payload range capability around 2,400nm due to the five-abreast seating.

    Suhkoi and Alenia's business case does not center around a next generation material system like that of Boeing or Airbus, a revolutionary systems architecture or supply chain, rather it's foundation is rooted in established advanced technology and a new supercritical wing profile, all while aiming to offering the new jet for as much as 20% less than its competition on the market, with a pricetag of $27.8 million.

    Superjet International's offices on the edge of Marco Polo International Airport in Venice are still coming together, says Giacomo Peretto, the joint venture's head of communications, but the empty desks of its future training center will soon be occupied by desktop training computers and belies both the new nature of the program, as well as its extraordinary ambition to break into the western market. Within a year, Superjet hopes to be training western pilots at this Venice facility. Russian pilots are already well into their flight training at a training center in Moscow.

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    Sukhoi Superjet 100 - Page 3 3624933358_9403ddcd0fSukhoi Superjet 100 - Page 3 Lic_c_gr by Jon Ostrower

    Time and again, the established airframers say that the challenge to new market entrants is not designing, certifying and delivering a new jetliner, but the process of seeing it through its multi-decade service life.

    "Think about Embraer at the beginning," says Peretto. "Who would have been willing to bet a dollar on a Brazilian plane?"

    Peretto plainly admits that Superjet International has its work cut out for it, but that won't stop the company from trying. With first delivery to Aeroflot at the end of this year, Peretto sees the early service life of the Superjet as a proving ground for the aircraft. The central challenge, he says, revolves around validating the aircraft's performance and demonstrating that the maintenance partnerships the venture has formed to live up to western standards of airline operational reliability and maintainability.

    The new customer says they've been provided contractual assurances from Alenia and SCAC that 98% of parts will be dispatched from strategic depots, such as the one being set up in Frankfurt in partnership with Lufthansa Technik Logistik, within three hours of receiving a service call and the remaining 2% within 72 hours.

    "We are the new kid on the block, as we say," says Peretto. "We need this reputation. We have to establish a solid reputation, we try our best on our part, we have no doubt the aircraft will be built the right way by our partners in Russia, so I think there's ground based for a perfect mix. Now the market will tell."

    The lessor, while declaring "absolute faith in the product" acknowledges that western airlines remain uneasy about Russian aircraft and whether the Superjet can be supported in service to the same level as its American, European, Canadian and Brazilian counterparts. By spreading the risk between lessors and airlines, the new customer hopes to deliver lower acquisition costs for operators, while ensuring that airlines feel they have an exit strategy if they are dissatisfied.

    "We have put our money where our mouth is," says the North American lessor.



    65 commandes en vue pour un loueur Nord Americain...

    -12% en conso par rapport à un E190 ou un CRJ900 avec un prix discount (-20% par rapport au march) à 27.8 m^$

    Le gros effort sur le support technique semble porter ses fruits.

    A suivre
    Et à voir les perfos réelles (notamment du SaM146...).


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 13 Juil 2010 - 13:39

    Bonjour à tous

    En regardant chez les collègues :

    http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4855758/#menu27

    Aviopic



    Empty Operating Weight per seat.
    SSJ100-95 = E-195 - 5% = E-190 - 13% = Cs110 - 16%
    Normal T/O Thrust per seat.
    SSJ100-95 = E-195 - 15% = E-190 - 28% = Cs110 - 42%
    It seems that the SSJ is relative light and the CF's are rather old and heavy(but that's old news of course).
    The GTF is obviously a lot heavier again.
    Also the SSJ seems to have less thrust but then again it needs less as a function of weight.
    As a result we can expect pretty good short trip economics as shown below.

    Fuel 400 NM trip.
    SSJ100-95 = E-195 - 20% = E-190 - 16% = Cs110 - 8%
    Fuel 400 NM trip per seat.
    SSJ100-95 = E-195 - 6% = E-190 - 12% = Cs110 + 4%
    Both the E-195 and CS110 pay the price for weight on a short trip, the CS does well per seat though(guess it has more seats).
    Obviously the CS will make up for the weight penalty on longer trips, In fact I don't consider the CS to be a RJ anyway.
    All above is of course based on information available to me and might be off by a +/- percent or so.


    R2RHO



    SFC for the SaM146 is stated at 0.629lb/h/lb versus 0.68 for the CF34-8 and 0.65 for the CF34-10. So it's not revolutionay, but it's still an improvement. The better engine/nacelle integration of the Superjet should help too. PowerJet also claims 20% less parts than the CF34. Sukhoi claims an overall 10% fuel consumption improvement versus the competition. Sounds a bit high to me, but I would believe 7%. The 5-abreast configuration is not the best for a 70-seater (which may never get built IMO), but is probably a break-even for a 100-pax a/c, and would work very well if the 110-130pax stretch is built. And I trust that Sukhoi knows how to build efficient wings. I haven't seen any OEW numbers, nor much more other data, which would help a lot in comparing it against competitors.
    (sources for my numbers: the respective manufaturer's websites)





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    Message par Beochien Mar 13 Juil 2010 - 13:56

    Belles pages !!! un peu blank ??
    Le lien va bien !
    Parfait maintenant !
    Very Happy


    Dernière édition par Beochien le Mar 13 Juil 2010 - 14:01, édité 1 fois
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 13 Juil 2010 - 14:01

    Taquin

    Quand je dis que je suis à fond... Wink


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 20 Juil 2010 - 22:33

    Bonsoir à tous

    http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2010/07/superjet-provides-ssj100-fligh.html




    FARNBOROUGH -- Superjet International, a joint venture between Sukhoi Civil Aircraft and Alenia Aeronautica, further detailed the progress of its SSJ100 flight test program.

    Sukhoi, who is responsible for the assembly, production and testing of the new 100 seater, says the certification campaign is 70% complete having flown 1800h over 710 flights.

    The aircraft is currently undergoing hot ands high testing in Armenia. The next phase, which will begin in August will see the regional jet fly to a dedicated airport in Italy for high-intensity radio frequency (HIRF) testing.

    Three SSJ100 aircraft will be delivered to Aeroflot and Armavia. The company says six aircraft are in final assembly, with 18 in production oveall.


    70% des essais réalisés.
    Campagne haut et chaud en armenie en cours


    Bonne soirée


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Sam 24 Juil 2010 - 17:43

    Bonjour à tous

    http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/superjet-pledges-first-superjet-100-deliveries-by-year-end-25607/





    Russian certification of the Superjet 100 is now pegged for October, instead of September, but Superjet International, a joint venture of Sukhoi Civil Aircraft and Italy’s Alenia, insists it will meet its commitment to deliver the first airplanes to Aeroflot and Armavia before year-end. A breakthrough in the oft-delayed program came in June, when the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) granted certification of the model’s SaM146 engine. EASA certification of the aircraft is expected in the middle of next year. The four Superjet 100s in the flight-test program have logged more than 1,750 hours.

    Superjet International brought one of the test airplanes to the Farnborough airshow, where contract orders with two airlines were signed. Indonesian regional carrier Kartika Airlines finalized an order for 30 Superjet 100s in a deal valued at $951 million, confirming a December 2008 agreement for firm orders for 15 Superjet 100s and options for 15 more. All the options were converted to firm orders. The Jakarta-based carrier’s aircraft will be delivered between 2012 and 2015.

    Superjet International also signed an agreement with Pearl Aircraft, a Bermuda-based aircraft leasing company, for the purchase of 30 Sukhoi Superjet 100s and options on 15 more.






    Et donc livraison cette année...


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 26 Juil 2010 - 14:04

    Bonjour à tous

    Je regardais un peu la section du SSJ que je voulais comparais à un Sbire très connu dans le monde du court-courrier... DC9/MD80 etc

    Dans l'ordre 717 / SSJ

    Diamètre interne : 3.11 / 3.23
    Triplet : 1.567 / 1.6
    Couloir : 0.483 / 0.511 (19" / 20.11")
    Doublet : 1.062 / 1.062

    Il y a 6 cm de marge entre les accoudoirs extérieurs et la carlingue sur le SSJ

    Par comparaison le couloir reste plus large dans le SSJ que dans le E-jet.

    Je n'ai jamais voyagé en MD... ni en ARj21-700, par contre en F100 oui... que ne fait que 3.1 m de large

    Donc bon gain par rapport à cette génération de commuter... pour le SSJ

    A comparer avec la section du Cseries qui est encore plus large

    SSJ / Cseries

    Largeur intérieure 3.17 /3.27 avec un couloir identique

    Voilà voilà

    Des volumes sympas par rapport au E-jet qui risque de prendre un petit coup de vieux

    Bonne journée





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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 26 Juil 2010 - 15:29

    Je poursuis sur le SSJ
    218 commandes

    Et je regardait les specs Wiki
    La cellule est super courte 30 m... (là ou le CS100 est à presque 35 m)
    L'aile est proche en taille du E-195...
    Une charge utile de 12 t
    Par contre je viens de trouver un petit pb de poids MTOW entre le site SuperJet International qui propose le 95LR a 49.45t (au lieu de 45.88 t bien connu... répété sur le site de Sukhoi...).

    Bon à 49.45 t de MTOW il est censé faire le boulot du E-190 qui lui décolle à 51.8t pour faire 2400 Nm...

    Si on fait des petits calculs, sachant que l'avion semple optimisé pour emporter le max fuel avec la charge max pax (http://superjet100.com/superjet100/super_economics/)
    MTOW -MAX PAX - MAXFUEL = OEW ?


    MAX PAX = 98 *100 kg = 9800 kg
    MAX FUEL = 13135 l *0.8 = 10508 kg

    Pour 49.45 t -> OEW = 29.15 t ce qui est supérieur aux 27.8 t annoncé pour l'E190
    Pour 45.88 t -> OEW = 25.58 t ce qui proche de ce qui est annoncé sur WIKI

    Bon quel est ce foutu MTOW !
    Ce qui met la puce à l'oreille

    E190 MTOW, 51.8, aile 28.72 m, poussée moteur 2*82.5 KN, piste à MTOW 2056 m
    SSJ95LR MTOW, ??, aile 27.80 m, pousée moteur 2*69 KN , piste à MTOW 1803 m

    Le SS pousse moins et décolle plus court, pour une aile à priori de même ordre de grandeur... conclusion il doit être plus léger
    Moi je dirais qu'on reste à 46 T de MTOW, est donc 8% plus léger qu'un E-jet. Pas trop mal

    http://sukhoi.org/eng/planes/projects/ssj100/characteristic/

    On en arrive au sujet initial de ce message : quel marge pour le SSJ en augmentation de taille de taille
    Le SaM146 est limité à 82.5 KN nomimal et 89 KN en cas de panne à priori tout comme le CF34-10A et E (mêmes accords ?)
    Avec cette puissance le E-195 arrive à décoller en 2200 m (punaise ça fini par être long MTOW 52.3 t)

    + 2.4 m sur le E195 coutent +900 kg et donnent +2.5 rangs

    On peut faire l'estimation suivante :
    SSJ-100-115LR stretch +3.5 m
    Soit 118 places STD 23"
    OEW ?? + 2 T (OEW estimé pour le SSJ100-75LR = 24 t, soit - 1.6t)

    Soit OEW = 27.6 t
    MTOW (118 pax et le plein) = 50 t

    On reste sous le MTOW max des E190/E195... donc priori dans l'enveloppe de poussée autorisée pour le SaM146. On doit être aux environs de 2200 NM de distance franchissable.
    On peut faire la comparaison avec le CS100 baseline qui est donnée pour 54.9 t (avec des perfos sacrément intéressant en distance de décollage au passage...).

    Bon pour moi le SSJ est un client sérieux entre 80-120 places... surtout pour Embraer.
    Pour l'instant il lui manque la crédibilité et la déclinaison en famille...

    A suivre

    Bonne journée


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 26 Juil 2010 - 15:36

    Je remets une autre couche avec une petite phrase intéressante


    http://superjet100.com/mediacenter/press/00256/

    Je ne reprends pas tout



    SSJ 100 has completed the full scope of testing required to prove the performance as well as take-off and landing capabilities. It has successfully passed a series of testing in extreme weather conditions (Yakutsk, Arkhangelsk) and high elevation program in Gumri (Armenia). These tests were conducted with extensive involvement of the aircraft maintenance team which checked the validity of the required maintenance procedures for marginal environment conditions.
    At the flight test centre in Zhukovsky the aircraft has accomplished the program validating its operation on the water-filled runaway, demonstrating the perfect performance of the APU and engines at the full range of required modes, including low speed, takeoff and maximum thrust reverser.
    The system evaluation and failure safety programs are under way on prototypes 95004 and 95005. The tests of the fuel system are completed. The air conditioning system failure testing is in progress. The aircraft has done a series of reduced visibility testing, which check the aircraft performance in conditions of restricted visibility with the use of flight deck instruments. The same prototypes are involved in navigation, autopilot and thrust reverser testing, which includes flights on such routes as Moscow- St.Petersburg - Moscow, Moscow-Kazan-Moscow, Moscow - Murmansk-Moscow without refueling and landing at mid point and with instrumental landings at destination. These flights excessively confirm the range capability of the aircraft (over 4000km). The fourth prototype demonstrated at Farnborough is also involved in on-ground EMI testing, evaluating electromagnetic interference from different electrical sources in the aircraft.
    Now there are 18 serial aircraft in production at different stages of completion, 6 of which are at the final assembly shop. The first production airplane No95007 is under power-on testing in Komsomolsk. At the earliest, on arrival of the serial engines and podding the aircraft will take to the skies.
    Today it’s already proven in flight that Sukhoi Superjet 100 is a revenue generating product that offers our customers a perfect combination of regional aircraft efficiency with the mainline level of comfort for passengers and the crew, and state-of-the art technologies such as uniquely smart electrical fly-by-wire system with multiple redundancy features already tested, environmentally friendly engine and hydraulic system, fully preventing hydraulic fluids leakage to service zones, open architecture avionics based on A380 technologies, a brake temperature monitoring system with automated current temperature analysis and many others. The efficiency of the aircraft is brought by perfect aerodynamics of the aircraft developed by the engineering team of Sukhoi in collaboration with aerodynamic experts from the world-known TsAGI and SaM146 engine.
    The design and maintainability of the aircraft itself and its major systems is driven by high dispatch reliability. This makes the SSJ100 extremely quick at the most high-frequency airports. The mainline comfort comes not only through the increased life space for a passenger but owing to the architecture of the air conditioning system which is less noisy, and moreover it offers the option of two independent temperature zones with selectable temperatures range providing additional comfort in-flight both for the crew and passengers.
    The aircraft is a product for ongoing growth of capabilities even after the certification is over. Today we’ve already launched the Operational Excellence Program that will increase the fuel efficiency and enhance the operational capabilities providing features like steep approach, IIIA landing category and others. And by 2012 the Program will result in the LR modification with 150km increase in range which will excessively cover our customers’ needs.



    18 avions en cours de construction
    6 en FAL dont l'avion tête de série prêt à recevoir ces fameux moteurs...

    Le programme "Operationnel Excellence Programme" permet d'envisager des gains à court terme +150 km sur la distance franchissable en vue

    Reste à savoir les perfs réelles de la machine

    Bonne journée


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    Message par aeroduO5 Lun 26 Juil 2010 - 15:50

    Merci Poncho pour tous ces calculs.
    Le SSJ est en concurrence directe avec le E190 et pourra l'être avec le E195 s'il est rallongé.
    Pour moi il fauit que Sukhoi travaille sur une version à 115 places et abandonne la version 75 places qui serait trop lourde.
    Ca nous fait en tout cas un concurrent sèrieux des E-Jets les plus gros.
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 26 Juil 2010 - 15:59

    Bien d'accord...
    Et le Cseries semble vraiment une classe au dessus, ce n'est plus un Rjet, mais bien un Monocouloir...


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    Message par voodoo Lun 26 Juil 2010 - 20:31

    Merci, c'est d"un coup plus clair...c'est le concurrent du E190 d'Embraer, successeur des MD.
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    Message par aubla Jeu 26 Aoû 2010 - 14:41

    Bonjour,

    Le Superjet100 en visite à Turin en Italie.
    Le programme de certification en est à 70% d'avancement.
    rappel : ALENIA est partie prenante dans le programme,
    ItAli Airlines en a commandé 10 et Alitalia serait intéressé par un leasing.

    Sukhoi Superjet 100 - Page 3 GetAsset

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/08/26/346594/superjet-prototype-arrives-in-italy-for-testing.html

    Bonne journée
    Cordialement
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Jeu 26 Aoû 2010 - 14:43

    Bonjour Aubla

    Merci !

    Tout est dit !


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    Message par Beochien Jeu 26 Aoû 2010 - 14:54

    Bonjour !
    Et un duel intéressant, à distance ..
    Entre le CF 34 ancienne version, et prochaine évolution ..
    Et le SM 146 d'origine SNECMA !

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    Message par Beochien Jeu 2 Sep 2010 - 13:19

    Bonjour !

    Un lessor "Motors" qui passerait au Superjet 100!
    Assez rare pour être signalé !

    ------------- L'article de FG -------------

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/09/02/346927/engine-lessor-willis-tentatively-signs-to-acquire-superjets.html

    http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/overview?symbol=WLFC.O

    Engine lessor Willis tentatively signs to acquire Superjets

    By David Kaminski-Morrow

    US engine leasing specialist Willis Lease Finance Corporation has
    signed a tentative agreement to acquire up to 10 Sukhoi Superjet 100
    aircraft.The memorandum of understanding covers the purchase of six of the 98-seat aircraft and the placement of options on another four.Superjet
    International, which markets the twin-jet to Western customers, says
    deliveries would begin in September 2012, and values the potential deal
    at up to $300 million.Willis Lease Finance is primarily active in
    the engine-leasing sector. Its portfolio at the end of June included
    172 commercial aircraft engines, four aircraft parts packages and four
    aircraft, and other engine-related equipment.While the company
    has not disclosed the reasons behind the agreement, chief executive
    Charles Willis stated last month that the company was "encouraged" by
    tax regime reform in Russia which made it "easier to acquire or lease
    modern engines and aircraft".Superjet 100 aircraft are equipped with PowerJet SaM146 turbofans.

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 6 Sep 2010 - 9:55

    Bonjour à tous

    Une petit couplet sur les perfs attendues du SSJ, avec une base de comparaison précise

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/avd/2010/09/03/03.xml&headline=Pressured+Aeroflot+Eyes+Sukhoi+Superjet100&channel=comm


    SCAC President Vladimir Prisyazhnyuk claims the aircraft has demonstrated an 8% fuel burn advantage over Embraer 190 and 195 regional jets with a full payload of 9.8 metric tons. Cost per passenger and per flight also are said to be 6-8% lower than its direct competitors


    8% d'amélioration en conso par rapport aux Ejets qui sont à ce jour les plus récents dans la catégorie.
    Les plus avisés feront l'exercice par rapport au futur Cseries Wink

    A suivre

    Bonne journée


    Dernière édition par jullienaline le Lun 6 Sep 2010 - 13:41, édité 1 fois (Raison : Lien corrigé : il faut remplacer les espaces par des +)


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