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sevrien
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par sevrien le Mer 27 Mai 2009 - 12:05

Bonjour, chers tous !

La commande reçue par RR pour des moteurs de C-130J (voir sous "Commandes militaires": "Rolls-Royce military", et "Turbopropulseurs militaire" ),.....
nous rappelle qu'il est, peut-être, utile de mentionner succinctement :
-- la position stratégique sur la planète de la famille des "Hercules" de Lockheed / Lockheed Martin, dont la famille "C-130J" represente les évolutions les plus récentes ;
-- l'importance de la relation entre RR et l'airframer, dans un aperçu de la "base clients".

Lien :
http://www.rolls-royce.com/defence/news/2009/c130j_contract.jsp


  1. The C-130, which has been the primary tactical transport and special mission aircraft for the U.S. Air Force since 1956, is powered by Rolls-Royce T56 engines. The “J” version of the aircraft, powered by AE 2100D3 engines, continues that legacy.
  2. Rolls-Royce has services agreements in place with all branches of the U.S. military, including the Air Force, Marines, Army and Navy, plus the Coast Guard.
  3. In 2007, Rolls-Royce was awarded a $235 million services agreements with U.S. Air Force. In February 2009, Rolls-Royce was awarded a $23 million support services and spares contract for AE 2100D3 engines with the U.S. Air Force. The engines are installed in C-130J military transport aircraft intended for the Royal Norwegian Air Force (RNoAF).
  4. In April 2009, Rolls-Royce was awarded a $106 million MissionCare™ support contract with U.S. Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) for Rolls-Royce AE 2100D3-powered KC-130J tanker aircraft, flown by the United States Marine Corps (USMC).

alain57
Whisky Quebec

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Message par alain57 le Lun 1 Juin 2009 - 18:31

L'Indonésie discute avec Lockheed pour renforcer son armée

http://www.lesechos.fr/info/aero/reuters_00152579-l-indonesie-discute-avec-lockheed-pour-renforcer-son-armee.htm

L'Indonésie est en négociations pour acquérir des avions de transport militaire C-130 Hercules au constructeur Lockheed Martin et envisage l'achat de chasseurs et sous-marins d'ici deux à trois ans, déclare son ministre de la Défense.
Juwono Sudarnoso a précisé dans un entretien à Reuters qu'il s'était entretenu du sujet avec son homologue américain Robert Gates mais que les deux pays n'avaient pas encore trouvé d'accord sur l'acquisition des avions de transport, première étape annoncée d'un renforcement des forces armées.
"Nous avons parlé avec Gates de la possibilité des Hercules (...) mais comme le marché pour cet avion en particulier est un peu tenu nous devons attendre notre tour", a-t-il dit en marge d'une réunion avec ses homologues asiatiques à Singapour.
"Il a promis un prix réduit mais nous ne savons pas de combien (...) parce que c'est dans leur intérêt que l'Indonésie demeure stable", a-t-il ajouté.
Kuala Lumpur souhaite consacrer d'ici cinq ans 1,2% de son Produit intérieur brut aux dépenses militaires, contre 0,68% (soit 3,3 milliards de dollars) actuellement, a-t-il expliqué.
"Tout dépend de la vitesse du redressement de l'économie", a-t-il concédé, soulignant que les dépenses
militaires de l'Indonésie, quatrième pays le plus peuplé au monde avec 226 millions d'habitants, étaient loin de ses voisins chinois, australien ou malaisien.
La Chine accroît régulièrement sa puissance militaire et l'Australie a annoncé récemment un projet de dépenses de 72 milliards de dollars pour les vingt prochaines années.
Ces décisions font redouter aux observateurs une course à l'armement en Asie, sur fond de contrôle des voies
commerciales et des frontières.

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par sevrien le Mar 2 Juin 2009 - 8:05

Bonjour, chers tous.
Pour ceux que cela intéresse, se référer à la page 9 du topic "AIRBUS A400 M", ......
& relire les échanges à partir du post de Jeannot du : sam 23 mai, à 01h36
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RAPPEL : ce texte, non pour le plaisir de faire un "doublon de flooding", mais pour pour mettre sous les yeux une approche vers un article plus récent, qui suit un échange téléphonique avec A&C.
sevrien a écrit:Bonsoir, Jeannot. Bonsoir chers tous.

Voici comment on gobe & perpétue les idées reçues, dans le véhiculage desquels la France semble être vraiment et constamment le 1er de la classe !

J'ai trouvé l'article dans mon exemplaire d'abonné d'Air & Cosmos. Certains pragmatiques français (il y en a un paquet, quand-même !) seraient pour les C-130J. Je cite :
"Les aviateurs français ferraillent de longue date pour rn disposer au profit des Forces Spéciales (COS)".

Cela est le reflet de l'infuence des SAS britanniques (sans conteste ; et les COS connaissent la valeur des SAS) ! Mieux vaut l'accepter, et pas tergiverser en contredisant futilement ! Les SAS et COS 'se parlent', ... quels que soient les dires officiels à ce sujet ! Que certains cessent de nous prendre, ou certians d'entre nous, pour des idiots ! Les SAS connaissent les C-130 -- toutes variantes -- comme leur poche !
"Toutefois, dans la situation crée par le retard de l'A400M, le volume d'une telle commande serait bien supérieur aux besoins initiaux".

"So what" ? Admettons ! Je continue !
"L'Armée de l'Air évoque désormais la possibilité d'une douzaine d'exemplaires, chiffre considéré comme "raisonnable" en termes d'efficacité opérationnelle et de rentabilite du parc".

Sans doute !
Nonobstant les incertitudes industrielles, liées aux dates e livraison -- que rappelle Lzuren Collet-Billon --, .. l'acquisition de 12 C-130J ne pourrait pas ne pas avoir d'infleunce sur sur le volume, à terme, ces commandes françaises d'A400M (50 prévues)".

Faux !
Dommage que le journaliste, Bernard BOMBEAU (qui est "un bon" ; oh, ...que oui ! ) ne soit pas Ingénieur Financier ! A&C aurait dû se rendre compte qu'il ne lui appartient pas d'aborder ces sujets sans "l'autorité" / la "compétence" ou le "savoir faire" nécessaires en la matière ! Les professionnalismes du journaliste sont ailleurs !

Cela est notre affaire ! Wink Il suffit de lire les commentaires dans nos posts ci-dessus ! Very Happy
Maintenant, voir post suivant.

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

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Message par sevrien le Mar 2 Juin 2009 - 8:20

Source : Air & Cosmos, no. 2174, du 29 mai, 2009
Rubrique : "Confidentiel" (page Cool.

"Super Hercules" : "Une hypothèse franco-britannique".
Plus que de gros C-17, c'est d'avions de transposrt tactique (ATT) que l'Armée de L'air à le besoin le plus urgent.
C'est l'évidence même !
La difficulté d'obtenir à court term une place réservée, sur la chaine de fabrication du C-130J, oblige à faire preuve d'imagination. Une des idées récemment lancées serait de parvenir à un accord bilatéral avec la Royal Air Force pour une exploitation partagée des Super Hercules dont les aviateurs britanniques souhaitent l'acquisition, dans l'attente de l'A400M.
L'idée peut parâitre surprenante, mais elle a, tout au moins, l'avantage d'encourager chacun à ne pas renoncer à l'avion européen.

Merci, Air & Cosmos, pour le fait, entre autres, d'avoir, été réceptif et compris !

Réactions ?

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par sevrien le Sam 6 Juin 2009 - 5:02

Voici le doublon !
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Quelques faits.

Les lecteurs sont capables de juger eux-mêmes.
Vector a écrit: Pour le C-130J-30, l'allongement fait que la garde au sol est réduite à l'arrière.

Cet aspect est atténué par le fait que la ligne du fuselage est "en angle montant raide" à l'arrière. Les ingénieurs de LM sont compétents. Ils savent ce qu'ils font! Et l'allongement de 15 pieds (4.57 mètres) n'est pas tout à l'arrière. Le "forward plug" (insertion devant l'aile) mesure 100 pouces (254cm) ; le "rear plug" (insertion derrière l'aile) fait 80 pouces (203cm) ! L'allongement à l'arrière de 203 cm est faible ! C'est le moins qu'on puisse dire !
Vector a écrit: Il y a déjà eu deux tailstrikes au Canada avec des C-130H.

Le C-130H est un vieil avion, avec de vieux moteurs (et des hélices en métal à 4 pales qui pèsent lourd), remplacés sur les C-130J / C-130J-30 par des moteurs bien plus puissants, et des hélices en composite à 6 pales (il y a d'autres améliorations substantielles, aussi).

Des rotations & vitesses trop lentes au décollage, entre autres, sont à la base des tail-strikes ! Le C-130J éloigne ce risque, ainsi que la version allongée C-130J-30, dont les 2 mètres supplémentaires à l'arrière ne sont franchement pas gênants !

Les C-130E & C-130H font partie de la flotte de l'Air Force du Canada depuis 1960. Le C-130H le plus récent de ladite flotte fut acquis / livré en 1996. Mes sources me disent que les deux C-130H concernés par le "tail-strike" furent reçus en 1974 ; oui, ..... 1974 (il y 35 ans). Ils font partie des avions C-130, qui doivent être remplacés rapidement.

Les "tail strikes" en question n'ont absolument pas causé des dégâts nécessitant des réparations urgentes.

Les C-130J & / ou C-130J-30 (divers liens donnent ce genre d'information):
-- ".....incorporate state-of-the-art technology to reduce manpower requirements by 38 percent, lower operating and support costs by 35 percent, and provide life cycle cost savings of 15 percent over earlier C-130 models. The C-130J also climbs faster and higher — 14 minutes to 28,000 feet (8,534m); flies farther at a higher cruise speed — 2,430 nm (4,500km) at 450 mph (724km/h); and can takeoff and land in a shorter distance — 1,950 feet (594m).

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Vector a écrit: Quand à l'incident du C-130 australien en Afghanistan, il n'a sans doute pas été publié pour des raisons opérationnelles.

Mes sources sur l'Afghanistan -- et elles sont des plus sérieuses et accessibles -- m'ont affirmé que, s'il y avait eu le moindre incident de ce type, il n'avait nécessité aucun traitement d'urgence pour les réparations.
Vector a écrit: Ceci dit, ce post devrait être dans la rubrique C-130 plus qu'ici. Mon propos était de souligner qu'en aviation. comme ailleurs, "le mieux est l'ennemi du bien". A trop vouloir améliorer les performances d'un avion, on risque de lui faire perdre les qualités qui ont fait sa réputation.

Je ferai le doublon approprié, avec la permission des Admin-Mod, j'espère.

Mais, au regard des éléments ci-dessus, les propos sur les "tail strikes, ...... qui se multiplient," seraient largement exgérés, voire infondés !

On est tout de même dans le domaine militaire, et "in theatre", dans l'action et l'urgence ! Sur de nombreuses années, voire des décennies, .... et il s'agit de remplacer les avions en question, par des avions modernes !

Réactions ? Studer, ... alain57, .... TRIM2,.....vonrichthoffen, .... et tous !

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par sevrien le Sam 6 Juin 2009 - 11:39

Bonjour, chers tous.
Et bonjour, cher Studer. J'espère que ce post ne fera pas trop "doublon" avec vos informations, sous le topic A400M.

Pour ceux que ceci intéresse, voici quelques données sur les C-130J et C-13J-30.

Ceci ne cherche pas à être exhaustif, seulement illustratif.

J'ai cherché ici et là, et ne me suis pas privé de Wikipedia, après avoir effectué les contrôles de cohérence d'usage entre les éléments fournis par Lockheed / Lockheed-Martin, et les opérateurs, y compris ceux qui n'ont pas encore pris livraison des C-130J / -130J-30.

Lien :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-130J_Super_Hercules
The C-130J is the newest version of the Hercules and the only model still in production. Externally similar to the classic Hercules in general appearance, the J model is a very different aircraft.

A noter : le modèle J est un appareil bien différent (des prédécesseurs).
These differences include new Rolls-Royce AE 2100 D3 turboprops with Dowty R391composite scimitar propellers, digital avionics (including Head-Up Displays (HUDs) for each pilot) and reduced crew requirements (two pilots, one load master, and one Crew Chief—no navigator or flight engineer).
The aircraft can also be configured with the "enhanced cargo handling system". The system consists of a computerized loadmasters station from where the user can remotely control the under floor winch and also configure the flip floor system to palletized roller or flat floor cargo handling. Initially developed for the USAF, this system enables rapid role changes to be carried out and so extends the C-130J's time available to complete taskings.
Intéressant.
These combined changes have improved performance over its C-130E/H siblings, such as 40% greater range, 21% higher maximum speed, and 41% shorter take-off distance.

Objectivement , ...... ce sont des améliorations factuellment prouvées, et impressionnantes !
The C-130J is available in a standard-length or stretched -30 variant. Lockheed Martin received the launch order for the J-model from the RAF, which ordered 25 aircraft, with first deliveries beginning in 1999 as Hercules C. Mk 4 (C-130J-30) and Hercules C. Mk 5 (C-130J).
The United States Air Force awarded a $470 million contract to Lockheed Martin for six modified KC-130J aircraft for use by the Air Force and Special Operations Command in mid-June 2008. The contract is expected to lead to C-130J variants that will replace aging HC-130s and MC-130s.
With the addition of the Marine Corps's ISR / Weapon Mission Kit, the KC-130J will be able to serve as an overwatch aircraft and can deliver ground support fire in the form of 30mm cannon fire, Hellfire missiles, and precision-guided bombs. This power, nicknamed the "Harvest Hawk", can be used in scenarios where precision is not a requisite, such as area denial.
On voit biern qu'il s'agit d'éviter le mieux, et de privilégier l'amélioration ambitieuse mais raisonnable du "bien existant", afin d'assurer l'efficacité opérationnelle, & la disponibilité rapide, "garantie" par des livraisons promptes !
Cibler le "mieux, ... soit l'ennemi du bien, ....", ... comme nous le voyons depuis longtemps, ... cela est le propre de l'A400M, hélas!

Je ferai d'autre posts, pour éviter de trop alourdir celui-ci !
A suivre, donc !

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par sevrien le Sam 6 Juin 2009 - 13:55

Suite : Lien :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-130J_Super_Hercules
--Lockheed Martin has offered to lease four C-130Js to the German Luftwaffe, which has been awaiting a Transall replacement set for 2010 (the Airbus A400M), but the deal was rejected.

-- The Indian Air Force purchased six C-130Js in early 2008 at a cost of up to US$ 1.059 billion. It is a package deal with the US government under its Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program, and India has retained options to buy six more of these aircraft for its special forces for combined army-air force operations.

-- The Canadian Forces signed a US$1.4 billion contract with Lockheed Martin for 17 new C-130J-30s on 16 January 2008, as part of the procurement process to replace the existing CC-130E and H models. The C-130J will be officially designated CC-130J Hercules in Canadian Forces service.

-- The Royal Norwegian Air Force has decided to purchase four C-130Js to reinforce their transport capacity when it was discovered that their forty-year-old C-130s were unserviceable during a wing change. The first aircraft was delivered in November 2008.

-- The Government of Qatar has also placed an order for four C-130Js, spare parts and training for the Qatari Emiri Air Force for a total of US$393.6 million. Deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2011.

-- The Iraqi Air Force has requested six new C-130J-30s,while the Israeli Air Force is seeking to purchase nine C-130J-30s.

-- The United Arab Emirates Air Force announced an order for twelve C-130J transport aircraft at the 2009 IDEX, with an announced value of US$1.3 billion.
Autre lien :

DATE:05/06/09. SOURCE:Flight International
Oman signs contract for one C-130J transport
By Craig Hoyle
Lockheed Martin has received a contract to supply Oman with one C-130J tactical transport, representing the type's selection by a third operator in the Middle East region.
...Oman's order is for one stretched-fuselage C-130J-30, to be delivered from mid-2012. However, it is believed that the nation could eventually look to expand the deal, as its air force currently flies three H-model Hercules. These were introduced to service between 1981 and 1983, according to Flight's MiliCAS database..
Il n'y a pas de petites commandes ; il n'y a que des commandes !
"The C-130J is ideally suited to the operating conditions found in Oman and other areas of the Gulf," says vice-president for Air Mobility and Special Operations Forces Programmes Jim Grant, in a statement issued by Lockheed.

NB : ce qui suit est significatif.
......Oman's contract boosts Lockheed's confirmed customer base for the C-130J to 11 nations, with its deal following earlier sales made to Australia, Canada, Denmark, India, Iraq, Italy, Norway (above), Qatar, the UK and the USA.
Ils ne peuvent pas tous se tromper ! Et les livraisons progressent à vive allure !

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par sevrien le Sam 6 Juin 2009 - 18:33

DID ("Defense Industry Daily") donne un aperçu intéressant des réflexions sérieusement menées par les responsables de la Défense Nationale canadienne.

Thème : "Replacing Canada’s Failing CC-130s: 17 C-130Js"

Lien :
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/canadas-cc130s-to-fail-in-3-years-4b-rfp-for-replacements-updated-01529/
03-Dec-2008 11:11 EST
DID has covered the growing realization in the US military that its aging aircraft fleet will begin posing serious challenges in the coming years. In a related vein, consider the problems that Canada is currently experiencing.

In 2005, Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Rick Hillier said that “Our [CC-130 E/H] Hercules fleet right now is rapidly going downhill. We know that three years and a little bit more than that, the fleet starts to become almost completely inoperational and we will have to stop supporting operations – or else, not be able to start them.”
The CC-130s are used in a wide variety of roles, from tactical transport to aerial refueling and even search and rescue. The Canadian Forces do not own any other aircraft in a similar class, which makes replacement essential.

Ceci vient appuyer les éléments présentés ci-dessus.
EADS tried to remain in the running with its Airbus A400M, and other alternatives were proposed, but the specific requirements set by Canada’s Department of National Defense (DND) tended to exclude alternatives. In December 2008, a program worth almost C$ 5 billion got underway to buy 17 of Lockheed’s privately-developed C-130J “Super Hercules” planes.

Et nous savons que l'un des problèmes, comme nous l'avons déjà écrit (souvent) est le manque de disponibilité rapide, devenu, bien sûr, l'impossibilité de disponibiklité rapide de l'A400M !
In this revised Spotlight article, DID can offer additional details regarding the Canadian procurement program, and the thinking behind it; some background that points up the parallels between the issues faced by the Canadians, and the experiences of other air services; and some insight into why the buy took so long, after the C-130J was declared Canada’s preferred choice in an “expedited” process.

Oui : les "other air services" ne sont pas limités à ceux du Canada ! Le DND a commencé à avoir des inputs et du feed-back d'autres pays-clients !
Despite these delays, and the supposed urgency of the situation, Canada’s DND appeared to be ignoring a USAF offer of early delivery… but that may have changed.

"... but that may have changed" = litote ! Very Happy


Dernière édition par sevrien le Dim 7 Juin 2009 - 2:12, édité 1 fois

Vector
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par Vector le Sam 6 Juin 2009 - 20:42

Sevrien, oublions cette polémique stérile sur les mérites du C-130J. Il est vrai qu'elle a son origine dans mon intervention, mais je voulais simplement dire qu'il ne faudrait pas sacrifier le rôle purement tactique du C-130. Le Canada a toujours été en pointe dans l'utilisation tactique du Hercules, qui a culminé avec le concept LAPES, largage de blindés à très basse altitude avec extraction horizontale par parachutes. Les expériences se sont traduites par la perte d'un C-130 après une approche sous une pente ridicule (de l'ordre de 40 degrés). L'idée était bonne pourtant, mais difficilement réalisable avec un pilote moyen aux commandes. Aujourd'hui, comme le dit votre article de DID, le C-130 ne sert plus vraiment à des missions tactiques, mais aux missions SAR et au ravitaillement des bases du grand Nord, avec pistes en dur aux deux bouts.
Cependant, l'évolution des nouveaux types de conflits pourrait exiger des performances tactiques plus fondamentales, ce qui peut être obtenu par une simplement remotorisation des "vieux" Hercules.
Dans les années 1975-80, je travaillais pour Interavia sur le dossier du remplacement du C-130. Après un analyse extrêmement poussée des diverses options envisageables à l'époque, la seule conclusion possible était que le seul successeur possible était le C-130... un peu modernisé car il montrait déjà son âge. Récemment, le Canada a acheté des C-130J-30 "un peu allongés", mais aussi 4 C-17 pour le transport stratégique. Je maintiens que des C-130 "courts" auraient été préférables pour la livraison à domicile sur le terrain.
La décision fait donc double emploi et ne comble pas adéquatement le besoin tactique.

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par sevrien le Dim 7 Juin 2009 - 2:09

Rappel de choses que nous écrivons depuis longtemps !

Voici une confirmation plus formelle d'un des "plans" de Boeing
(Merci JETHRO).
McNerney's game plan to deal with the defense changes is ambitious. He intends to diversify Boeing's sales, pitching more C-17s to allies such as Australia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, and the U.K., along with other NATO countries.

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

Re: Boeing (C-17), Lockheed Martin (C-5 & C-130J), Airbus (A400M) et d'autres!

Message par sevrien le Jeu 11 Juin 2009 - 7:07

Pour continuer ces posts d'information sur le C-130.

Puisque nous avons mentionné la Candian Air Force, ceci a sa pertinence.

Lien :
[url=http://aviation-militaire.oldiblog.com/?page=lastarticle&id=1980028]http://aviation-militaire.oldiblog.com/?page=lastarticle&id=1980028[/url]
Le CC-130 :
C'est l'appellation canadienne du C-130 Hercules. Lepremier "C" signifie Canadian. Il est motorisé par quatre Allison T-56-A-7/15 lui procurant une puissance de 4050 ch par moteur. Son rôle dans la Canadian Air Force est principalement le transport de troupes, de matériels, de fret; mais il est utilisé pour des missions de recherche et de sauvetage (SAR : "Search and Rescue") et aussi pour le ravitaillement en vol. Quelques fois pour des évacuations médicales.

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Autre Liens :
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/site/equip/cc130/default_e.asp
In Afghanistan, Tactical Airlift & Intertheatre transport.
The CC-130 Hercules (NB : les "H",..... avant les "J") is a fixed-wing turboprop aircraft that can carry up to 90 combat troops. It is used for a wide range of missions, including troop transport, tactical airlift (both palletized and vehicular cargo), search and rescue (SAR), air-to-air refueling (AAR), and aircrew training. It can carry more than 17,000 kilograms (about 38,000 pounds) of fuel for tactical AAR. In the tactical AAR role, the Hercules can transfer 450 to 900 kilograms (about 1,000 to 2,000 pounds or 454 to 910 litres) of fuel per minute, and refuels the CF-18 Hornet fighter aircraft in less than five minutes.

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Sa capacité "tactical airlift" n'est nullement négligée..

Je n'entre pas dans les autres applications, du genre "gunship", etc....

sevrien
Whisky Quebec

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Message par sevrien le Jeu 11 Juin 2009 - 8:50

Additif très important sur l'aspect "Tactical Transport Aircraft".
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Prière d'excuser les éventuelles répétitions de choses écrites ci-dessus.

Lien & extraits :

C-130J (Key Data)
Crew
3 - 2 pilots and a loadmaster
Wingspan
132ft 7in
Tail Wingspan
52ft 8in
Length
97ft 9in
Height
38ft 10in
Propeller Diameter
13ft 6in
Length
40ft
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The Lockheed Martin C-130 is the US Air Force principal tactical cargo and personnel transport aircraft, and the C-130J Hercules is the latest model, featuring a glass cockpit, digital avionics and a new propulsion system with a six-bladed propeller.

Il y a tout de même des améliorzations significatives par rapport à la version "H" ("airframe" au bout du roulrau, pour les missions prévues )!
The improvements built into the C-130J, which entered production in 1997, have enhanced the performance of the aircraft in terms of range, cruise ceiling time to climb, speed and airfield requirements.

Voir ci-dessus (samedi, 06 jui, 2009, à 05h02) :
Les C-130J & / ou C-130J-30 (divers liens donnent ce genre d'information):
-- ".....incorporate state-of-the-art technology to reduce manpower requirements by 38 percent, lower operating and support costs by 35 percent, and provide life cycle cost savings of 15 percent over earlier C-130 models. The C-130J also climbs faster and higher — 14 minutes to 28,000 feet (8,534m); flies farther at a higher cruise speed — 2,430 nm (4,500km) at 450 mph (724km/h); and can takeoff and land in a shorter distance — 1,950 feet (594m).

A stretched version, the C-130J-30 has been developed and is designated CC-130J by the USAF. The first C-130J-30 for the UK RAF (the launch customer) was delivered in November 1999.

Nous y reviendrons.
The C-130J entered active service with the USAF at Little Rock Air Force Base in April 2004 and was first deployed in December 2004.

The first combat airdrop for the USAF was in July 2005. The US Air Mobility Command declared initial operating capability for the C-130J in October 2006.


Quelle que soit la mnière de compter, cette version est opérationnelle comme TTA (Tactical Transport Aircraft) depuis plus de quatre ans et demi !

......
Cockpit
The C-130J is crewed by two pilots and a loadmaster. The new glass cockpit features four L-3 display systems multifunction liquid crystal displays for flight control and navigation systems.

Each pilot has a Flight Dynamics head-up display (HUD). The dual mission computers, supplied by BAE Systems IEWS, operate and monitor the aircraft systems and advise the crew of status."Lockheed Martin is proposing the C-130J for the Joint Cargo Aircraft (JCA)."

The cockpit is fitted with the Northrop Grumman low-power colour radar display. The map display shows digitally stored map image data.

The C-130J is equipped with a Honeywell dual embedded global positioning system / inertial navigation system (GPS/INS), an enhanced traffic alerting and collision avoidance system (E-TCAS), a ground collision avoidance system, SKE2000 station keeping system, and an instrument landing system (ILS).

In July 2008, Lockheed Martin announced that the following would be included in the baseline configuration of new C-130Js: Elbit Systems global digital map unit and the TacView portable mission display and InegrFlight commercial GPS landing system sensor unit, supplied by CMC of Canada.

Qui veut soutenir que cet avion soit déjà "old hat" ? Et il vole, et accumule des milliers d'heures "in theatre", en assurant un travail remarquable ! C'est un "workhorse" bien mieux équipé, plus efficace, plus sûr, et bien plus productif que ses C-130 prédécesseurs ! Il y en a qui ont besoin de porter d'autres lunnettes et de s'injecter une dose d'humilité et de pragmatisme, pour chasser arrogance, parti-pris, doctrine et dogme, et l'aveuglement engendré par ces derniers ! Very Happy
Cargo systems

The cargo bay of the C-130J has a total usable volume of over 4,500ft³ and can accommodate loads up to 37,216lb - for example, three armoured personnel carriers, five pallets, 74 litters (stretchers), 92 equipped combat troops or 64 paratroops. The bay is equipped with cargo handling rollers, tie-down rings, stowage containers and stowage for troop seats.
Et il accumule les heures par milliers "in theatre" depuis des années !
Countermeasures

The ATK AN/AAR-47 missile warning system uses electro-optic sensors to detect missile exhaust and advanced signal processing algorithms and spectral selection to analyse and prioritise threats. Sensors are mounted near the nose just below the second cockpit window and in the tail cone.

The BAE Systems AN/ALR-56M radar warning receiver is a superheterodyne receiver operating in the 2GHz to 20GHz bands. A low-band antenna and four high-band quadrant antennae are installed near the nose section below the second window of the cockpit and in the tail cone.

The BAE Systems Integrated Defense Solutions (formerly Tracor) AN/ALE-47 countermeasures system is capable of dispensing chaff and infrared flares in addition to the POET and GEN-X active expendable decoys.

The Lockheed Martin AN/ALQ-157 infrared countermeasures system generates a varying frequency-agile infrared jamming signal. The infrared transmitter is surface mounted at the aft end of the main undercarriage bay fairing.

Cette "suite" de "counter-measures" est "State of the Art" ! Qu'on ne cherche même pas à nous dire le contraire !
"The C-130J is equipped with four Allison AE2100D3 turboprop engines, each rated at 4,591shp"

The USAF has selected the Northrop Grumman Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasures (LAIRCM) system to equip its C-130 aircraft. LAIRCM is based on the AN/AAQ-24(V) NEMESIS.

It entered low-rate initial production in August 2002 and completed initial operational test and evaluation in July 2004. A five-year delivery order for the system was placed by the USAF in July 2006. Australia requested the sale of LAIRCM to equip its fleet of 12 C-130J in May 2008.
Ce sont tout de même des références, non ? Il y a quelqu'un qui veut dénigrer ?
Radar

The Northrop Grumman MODAR 4,000-colour weather and navigation radar is installed in the upward hinged dielectric radome in the nose of the aircraft. The weather radar has a range of 250nm.
Très bon !
Engines

The C-130J is equipped with four Allison AE2100D3 turboprop engines, each rated at 4,591 shaft horsepower (3,425kW). The all-composite six-blade R391 propeller system was developed by Dowty Aerospace.

The engines are equipped with Full-Authority Digital Electronic Control (FADEC) by Lucas Aerospace. An automatic thrust control system (ATCS) optimises the balance of power on the engines, allowing lower values of minimum control speeds and superior short-airfield performance.
Et, étant bien pragmatiques, là ou les "Leaders" d'EADS (ou "Politiques dans le Cockpit") ont manqué, ou semblent avoir manqué de pragmatisme , les responsables du projet C-130J, ont obtenu la certification civile, sous la tutelle de la FAA et les Autorités améridcaines en générale, comme un "supplément" de la "certification militaire" ! Et qu'on ne vienne pas nous expliquer pourquoi ceci était impossible auprès de l'EASA !
The aircraft can carry a maximum internal fuel load of 45,900lb. An additional 18,700lb of fuel can be carried in external underwing fuel tanks. The refuelling probe installed on the centre of the fuselage has been relocated on the C-130J to the port side, over the cockpit.

Cela complète le tableau de cet appareil qui réalise déjà une performance remarquable "in theatre" ! C'est pour quand, l'A400M ?

Il faut commencer à être sérieux, tout de même !

L'une des grandes caractéristiques et qualités de cet avion C-130J est qu'il n'est vraiment pas conçu ou fait pour être "le mieux" ! Etre "le bien" lui suffit ! Le "bien améliorable", bien sûr, ....... et ses concepteurs n'ont surement pas dir leur dernier mot !

Avant l'EIS de l'A400M, Lockheed Martin aura largement le temps de lui apporter encore des améliorations ! Wink

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Message par alain57 le Lun 15 Juin 2009 - 9:15

Indian Air Force to buy 10 C-17 Globemaster III heavy-lift transport aircraft

http://www.defpro.com/news/details/8048/

16:51 GMT, June 14, 2009 New Delhi | The Indian Air Force (IAF) has shortlisted the Boeing C-17
Globemaster III as its new Very Heavy Lift Transport Aircraft (VHTAC), IANS reported today.

Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik is quoted by the India Strategic defence magazine as saying that the aircraft had been chosen after a thorough study because of its capability to take off and land on
short runways with heavy loads, long range, and ease of operation.

IAF was looking at acquiring ten C-17s initially through the US government’s Foreign Military Sales (FMS) route, and a proposal in this regard was being considered by the Ministry of Defence (MoD), he said adding that the aircraft should come in about three years after a contract is signed.

The air chief, who spoke to India Strategic on the eve of the Paris Air Show beginning Monday, is also
quoted as saying in its report that flight trials for the six Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCAs) would begin in July and end around March 2010. The chosen MMRCA should start coming to India by 2014.

Outlining the trial procedure, Air Chief Marshal Naik said that initially, test pilots from IAF’s elite Bangalore-based Aircraft and Systems Testing Establishment (ASTE) would visit the manufacturing facilities of the six contenders; in the second round, they would test the aircraft’s performance in humid, hot and cold weather in Bangalore, Jaisalmer and Leh; and in the third and final round, they would test live precision weapon firings from the aircraft in the country of their manufacturer or another country designated by them.

“There would be one team leader but two or three sub-teams, and the template would be common for
all,” he was quoted as saying.

The six aircraft in the fray are European EADS Eurofighter, US Lockheed Martin F-16 Viper and Boeing F-18 Super Hornet, French Rafale, Swedish Gripen and Russian Mig 35. One of them would be chosen to
supply 126 aircraft worth about $10 billion, but the order could go up by another 50 per cent to 189 aircraft, a clause for which is built in the tender (Request for Proposal or RfP) issued last year. The interview report has been published in the June edition of India Strategic, being released at the Paris Air Show.

Notably, except for the Su30-MKI, all the combat and transport aircraft of the IAF were acquired in the 1980s, and IAF needs new, and newer generation, aircraft to replace and augment that capacity.

India has about 100-plus medium An-32 and less than 20 heavy lift IL-76 aircraft. It is difficult to get their spares as the Soviet Union where they were made has disintegrated into Russia and other states. IAF has acquired old, refurbished IL-76 platforms for its AWACS and Midair Refueler requirements.

An agreement was being signed with Ukraine to upgrade and modernize the An-32s, the Air Chief said.
An IL-76 can carry a cargo of around 45 tonnes and has a crew of six while a C-17 can carry 70 tonnes, and is much easier to operate with a small crew of two pilots and one loadmaster (total three), thanks to its
various power-assisted systems. Two observers though can also be seated.

Despite its massive size - 174 ft length, 55 ft height and about 170 ft wingspan - a pilot can fly the C-17 with a simple joystick, much like a fighter aircraft, which can be lifesaving in a battlezone as the aircraft can
take off quickly and at steep angles. It is powered by four Pratt & Whitney F-117-PW-100 turbofan engines.

Air Chief Marshal Naik said that IAF required contemporary and futuristic aircraft and systems, and that there was an urgency to acquire modern aircraft. The government shared the concern of the armed forces, and the pace to renew IAF’s assets was on schedule. By 2020-25, IAF would achieve its optimum level (of 45 squadrons).
At present, it is down from its sanctioned strength of 39.5 squadron to around 30-32, but this trend has been arrested, particularly with the induction of more Su30-MKIs and Jaguars. India has given a repeat order of 40 Su30-MKIs to Russia to take their total number to 230.

The requirement today is for technologically better, easier to maintain, and a larger number of combat and other aircraft, including helicopters, due to the strategic scenario around India and the need to ferry
troops, men and material even within India in times of contingency and natural disasters.

He observed: “The IAF of the future, post-2025, would consist of FGFA (Fith Generation Fighter Aircraft), Su30-MKIs, MRCAs and Tejas/MCA (indigenous Medium Combat Aircraft) with multi-role as well as significant swing role capability.”
“They would employ advanced technologies, sensors and precision weapons. The larger aircraft, i.e. FGFA and Su30 would focus on Air Dominance and specialise in similar roles in long ranges over land and sea,
while the MRCAs would don a variety of medium-range and tactical roles. These assets would be capable of all weather, day and night attack with adequate self-protection capability… these assets would be immensely capable and are not going to be confined to the strictly stereotyped roles. They would carry out a
number of roles in the same mission.”
Air Chief Marshal Naik, who assumed charge May 31 from Air Chief Marshal F.H. Major, would be visiting the Paris Air Show along with top IAF officers to witness what new technologies are being introduced and displayed there by various aircraft manufacturers.
The Air Chief said that IAF was also looking at more AWACS but after studying how the first lot of three Phalcon AWACS functions. The first of these aircraft was delivered last month, and the remaining two would be delivered by Israel in 2010.

He indicated that IAF had short-listed the Airbus A330 MRTT to augment its Midair Refueller requirement, and that the proposal was being processed by the Ministry of Defence. IAF already has six IL-76-based aerial
refuellers, designated as IL-78.
As for the C-17, Boeing has brought the aircraft several times to India for its literal catwalk on IAF tarmacs,
including at the Aero India 2007 and 2009 in Bangalore. Indian military officials and journalists have been invited for the aircraft’s flight displays during the Paris Air Show.

The C-17 is the mainstay of the US forces for worldwide deployment, and can be refuelled midair. It is in fact the lifeline of US and NATO troops deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
According to the Boeing company, the high-wing, 4-engine, multi-service T-tailed military-transport C-17 can carry large equipment including tanks, supplies and troops directly to small airfields in harsh terrain anywhere in the world day or night.
The massive, sturdy, long-haul aircraft tackles distance, destination and heavy, oversized payloads in unpredictable conditions. It has delivered cargo in every worldwide operation since the 1990s. It can take off
from a 7,600-ft airfield, carry a payload of 160,000 pounds, fly 2,400 nautical miles, refuel while in flight for longer range, and land in 3,000 ft or less on a small unpaved or paved airfield day or night.
The aircraft can also be used as an aerial ambulance.

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Message par sevrien le Mar 16 Juin 2009 - 0:48

Bon sens, pragmatisme et réalisme !

Lien :
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/06/15/327902/paris-air-show-lockheed-confirms-c-130j-discussions-under-way-with-several-a400m.html
15/06/09. SOURCE:Flight Daily NewsPARIS AIR SHOW: Lockheed confirms C-130J discussions under way with 'several' A400M customers
By Craig Hoyle
Lockheed Martin has brought its C-130J tactical transport to the show with high hopes of securing new European customers affected by delays to the Airbus Military A400M, and celebrating a new contract with Oman.
On comprend LM ! Les clients d'Airebus, pour l'A400M, ont des besoins immédiats, ... et certains d'entre eux , ....."in theatre" ! A noter : le terme "tactical transport" pour décrire le C-130J !
While France remains committed to the A400M project, defence minister Hervé Morin confirmed last week that it is talking to Lockheed in an attempt to resolve its looming military transport crisis. Discussions are understood to surround a lease or purchase deal for a squadron of between 10 and 15 C-130Js.
Lire les posts antérieurs, ci-dessus, à ce sujet ! Wink
The UK - the most vocal critic of Airbus Military's contractual failings - has already confirmed that it could lease or buy additional C-130Js to replace its K-model Hercules, which are more than 40 years old, and possibly cancel its order for 25 A400Ms.
Mais il serait étonnant que le RU annule ses 25 x A400M. Le RU, la RAF ont besoin de cet avion ! Mais pas à n'importe quel prix, ou dans n'importe quelles conditions ! Le RU pourrait jouer sur les quantités d'A400M à prendre, 'in fine', et / ou sur les délais de livraison, ... ou sur une combinaison des deux !
"We are excited about the opportunity to meet the airlift needs of A400M nations," says Jim Grant, Lockheed's vice-president C-130J business development. "We are having detailed discussions with several of those countries."
Et cela est vrai !
Oman signed a contract on 5 June for one stretched fuselage C-130J-30 to be delivered from mid-2012. Others could follow, as its air force now flies three C-130Hs. Qatar ordered four C-130Js last October, while the United Arab Emirates is in negotiations for a 12-aircraft deal announced in February.
Et la version allongée, C-130J-30, est un excellent appareil !

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Message par alain57 le Mer 8 Juil 2009 - 14:08


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Message par alain57 le Jeu 9 Juil 2009 - 9:34

18th Air Force Commander C-130J Delivery Continues U.S. Air Force Build-Up Of Super Hercules Fleet

http://www.defpro.com/news/details/8536/

05:34 GMT, July 9, 2009 MARIETTA, Ga. | Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] yesterday delivered the 14th of 16 C
130J Super Hercules to Little Rock Air Force Base, Ark. The aircraft will be assigned to the 41st Airlift Squadron, the first active-duty combat C-130J squadron in the U.S. Air Force. This latest C-130J Super
Hercules was accepted by Major General Winfield W. Scott III, Commander 18th Air Force, Scott Air Force Base, Ill.

"After we deliver this aircraft to Little Rock, this C-130J could be flying a combat mission within the week, if so tasked. That’s a testament to the employees who build this aircraft and the quality of the aircraft,"
Scott said. "The C-130J is a great aircraft, the capabilities of which we are just beginning to touch on. It’s not only the capability that the J brings, but it’s also its increased sustainability. With the J, the maintenance crews have to work less; we can turn it around quicker and fly it harder."

C-130Js from the 41st Airlift Squadron "Black Cats" are engaged in high-tempo operations in multiple
combat theaters. In the last two years, the 41st has already carried 56,000 passengers, 3,500 tons of cargo and flown 2,600 combat sorties over 4,000 flight hours. Since the Air Force started operating
the C-130J in 2000, it has flown 40,000 sorties and about 87,000 flying hours.

The C-130J is a proven airlifter that has been selected by 11 countries. As of March 2009 263 C 130Js have been ordered and 174 have been delivered. The C-130J is a flexible, multimission aircraft that is available in
varied configurations to meet a wide-range of operational needs.

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Message par jullienaline le Lun 21 Sep 2009 - 23:53

Bonsoir à tous,

Une belle série de photos du C-17 :

http://www.thestreet.com/gallery/tsc-c17/index.html


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Message par Vector le Mar 22 Sep 2009 - 1:13

L'article cité par Alain57 sur la mise en service du C-130J est intéressant, malheureusement, le général Scoot emploie le mot "testament" à la place de "testimonial" (témoignage), malheureux lapsus qui n'augure rien de bon !!!

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Message par jullienaline le Sam 17 Oct 2009 - 23:10

Bonsoir à tous,

Le troisième C-17 du Heavy Airlift Wing basé en Hongrie vient d'être livré.

http://www.defpro.com/news/details/10623/

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Message par jullienaline le Dim 8 Nov 2009 - 23:43

Bonsoir à tous,

Une rumeur de commande pour le C-17.
L'Inde négocierait l'achat de 10 exemplaires.

India Seeks To Bolster Transport With 10 C-17s

NEW DELHI - The Indian Defence Ministry is negotiating the purchase of C-17 heavy-lift Globemaster aircraft from the United States through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) route, say ministry sources.

India is negotiating a $1.7 billion deal to purchase 10 Boeing-made C-17 Globemasters. (Senior Airman Laura Turner / U.S. Air Force)

The U.S. Air Force flew the Globemaster in a joint air exercise between the air forces of the two countries held in India Oct. 19-23 at Agra to let the Indian military familiarize itself with the transport craft, said a senior Indian Air Force official.
India is negotiating the purchase of 10 C-17 aircraft made by U.S.-based Boeing, disregarding the Russian IL-76 transport even though the American aircraft is three times costlier, Defence Ministry sources said. The C-17's advantages include its easier handling (compared with the IL-76) and ability to operate from short and rough airstrips, added the sources.
The $1.7 billion deal, likely to be finalized by early 2010, would be Boeing's second-largest deal with India since New Delhi signed a $2.1 billion agreement in January to purchase eight P-8 maritime patrol aircraft.
The Indian military needs to do three things: augment its ability to quickly lift larger numbers of troops as it views possible threats on its border with China; strengthen its presence on the Pakistani border; and fight terrorism and low-intensity warfare, said a senior Defence Ministry official.
India needs to triple its lift capacity, said the official.
India already has contracted for six C-130J aircraft from the United States, the delivery of which is expected to begin by 2011.
The Air Force's current fixed-wing transport fleet comprises 40 Russian-made IL-76 and more than 100 AN-32s, which are being upgraded by Ukraine, and the U.S.-made C-130J transport aircraft.
In addition, the Indian Defence Forces are buying about 800 rotary-wing assets in the next seven years.
In July, India signed a $400 million contract with Ukrainian military export agency Ukrspetsexport to upgrade 100 Soviet-built AN-32 cargo aircraft for the Indian Air Force.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4361097&c=ASI&s=AIR

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Message par jullienaline le Lun 30 Nov 2009 - 7:27

Bonjour à tous,

La Grande-Bretagne négocierait l'achat d'un C-17 supplémentaire. A mettre en parallèle avec les retards de l'A400M ?

Britain In Talks With Boeing For Another C-17

Britain is negotiating the purchase of another Boeing C-17 airlifter to boost the Royal Air Force's ability to supply troops fighting the Taliban in southern Afghanistan. If the procurement gets the go-ahead, the Ministry of Defence here said it hopes to complete contract negotiations by the end of the year.

Approval of the purchase would see the RAF's fleet of C-17s grow to seven aircraft. An MoD spokesman confirmed negotiations were underway but said no deal had yet been done to acquire the aircraft.
"The U.K. has engaged in exploratory discussions with the U.S. Air Force and Boeing regarding the feasibility of procuring a seventh C-17 aircraft for the U.K. No commitments have been made, and no decisions have been taken," he said.
"If the department decides to purchase a new C-17, then we plan to be on contract with Boeing by the end of December 2009, with a view to delivery in December 2010 and an in-service date of March 2011," said the spokesman.
The rapid in-service date suggests the British will be given an early delivery slot earmarked for the U.S. Air Force.
The C-17 has been the backbone of an RAF's airbridge operation, which has been severely stretched supporting Britain's growing military presence in Afghanistan.
The British have been operating C-17s since 2001, when they leased four aircraft. The airlifters were eventually purchased by the RAF and the fleet has grown to the point where the British took delivery of two aircraft last year and are now poised to acquire their seventh aircraft, subject to final government approval.
Analysts think the RAF has hopes to acquire at least one more aircraft before the Boeing C-17 production line closes. Funding is likely to be an issue for the cash-strapped MoD.
The MoD here is estimating line closure in 2011. However, a Boeing spokesman said there was currently no cut-off point and the production line was good until at least 2012.
A Boeing spokesman in the U.S. declined to discuss the possible deal with the British beyond saying, "We continue to see strong international interest in C-17s. Our customers, however, prefer to announce their intentions on their own timetable. The question is best addressed by the U.K.'s MoD."
The British said the purchase of the additional aircraft was not directly connected with delays to the Airbus A400M airlifter program.
"A400M is the replacement capability for the Hercules C-130K tactical transporter. We have looked carefully at the intra-theater operational requirement after the C130-K goes out of service in 2012. Although a C-17 can be employed in a tactical role and will help to mitigate against operational losses of C-130J, analysis suggests that the current fleet of 24 C-130J can sustain anticipated intra-theatre airlift tasking on current operations until A400M comes into service."
The first flight of the A400M is expected in the next few days. The partner nations in the program are still trying to hammer out a deal with Airbus parent EADS on the revised timing and cost of the program, which is currently three years late and hugely over cost.
French media earlier this month said Britain is expected to cut the number of aircraft it will buy from 25 to 19 aircraft in order to stay within funding availability. One British industry executive said earlier this week he thought the number the RAF get could be even less.
Asked if the C-17 buy could have an impact on A400M numbers, the spokesman said, "We keep our operational requirements under constant review, and we will look hard at the implications of the acquisition of any enduring capability. We continue to work with OCCAR [the European program office] and partner nations to find a way forward on the A400M program. It would be inappropriate to comment on these discussions at this time," he said.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4394666&c=EUR&s=AIR

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