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Poncho (Admin)
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 23 Mai 2012 - 10:13

Il semble que DL ait pris les 717 avec qq garanties de boeing/RR sur les évolutions moteurs (allongement des cycles...).

Sinon en suivant un lien d'ostrover

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1995/1995%20-%203553.html

Dans les archives, le 717 tenait bien la route par rapport aux A319 et consort

aeroduO5
Whisky Quebec

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par aeroduO5 le Ven 25 Mai 2012 - 22:04

Pour les vols de moins de 2 heures c'est une bonne machine.

Les moteurs ne sont pas de la dernière génération mais si on reste raisonnable sur la distance la conso reste correcte.



Il faut voir que Delta a des DC9 et des MD 80 en pagaille. Donc un 717 fera mieux en coûts au siège.

En plus le prix de la location doit être assez bas donc les coûts de possession sont réduits.

Cela compense la conso légèrement plus élévée.

Poncho (Admin)
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Ven 25 Mai 2012 - 22:29

Salut aerodu05, il semble que le pb du br soit la maintenance et les cycles...
mais je n'en sais pas plus

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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 13 Juin 2012 - 15:31

Bon suite des aventures de delta

Les scopes closes et les effets boule de neige des 717

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ain-air-transport-perspective/2012-06-11/us-scope-clause-relief-double-edged-sword

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/blogs/ain-blog-proposed-delta-scope-clause-could-break-back-small-rj-fleets

Si je comprends bien, augmentation des quotas d'avions à 70 et 76 places, forte réduction des quotas des 50 places et diminution globale de l'enveloppe des partenaires delta connection

A suivre (et à m'expliquer en détail pourquoi pas)


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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Lun 9 Juil 2012 - 17:36

Bon ça se précise pour Delta et le 717

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/delta-to-introduce-boeing-717-in-2013-374054/?cmpid=SOC%7CFGFG%7Ctwitterfeed%7CFlightglobal

Dès 2013


Delta Air Lines has finalised an agreement with Southwest Airlines and Boeing Capital to lease 88 Boeing 717-200s beginning in August 2013.

The Atlanta-based carrier will receive about three aircraft per month from Southwest's subsidiary AirTran Airways with 16 aircraft transferred in 2016, 36 in 2014 and 36 in 2015.

Delta will either lease the aircraft from Boeing Capital or sublease the narrowbodies from Southwest.

"The 717s also provide Delta with a significant improvement in economic efficiency relative to the aircraft they are replacing," says Richard Anderson, chief executive of Delta, in a statement.

The arrangement is related to a deal between Delta and its pilots that allows the carrier to retire 218 50-seat regional jets and add 70 76-seat RJs.

Southwest will face a $50 million charge from transaction costs but realise $200 million in annual cost savings once the 717s exit its fleet, says the airline.

Delta will configure the 717s with 110 seats, including 12 seats in first class, 15 in economy "comfort" and 83 in economy.



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Beochien
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Beochien le Lun 9 Juil 2012 - 17:51

Merci Poncho ....
L'impression que côté MC neufs, ça attendra un peu ??
Quoique pour des livraisons 2018 - 19 ...

aeroduO5
Whisky Quebec

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par aeroduO5 le Lun 9 Juil 2012 - 20:13

Delta exploite ses avions jusqu'au bout.

Du coup ils ont moins besoin d'avions que les autres.



Pour les MC, les 717 vont amener de la capa rapidement et remplacer les DC9.

Ensuite les 737-900ER vont remplacer les 757-200 et les premiers A320.

Donc Delta n'a besoin de rien avant 2020.

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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 11 Déc 2012 - 22:22

Bonsoir

Delta rachète les 49% de SIA dans Virgin Atlantic

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/delta-buys-49-share-of-virgin-atlantic-for-360m-380065/








Delta Air Lines is to acquire Singapore Airlines' 49% share in UK operator Virgin Atlantic for $360 million, less than half the £600 million ($965 million) figure paid by SIA.
The
acquisition includes the formation of a broader transatlantic
agreement, comprising a metal-neutral joint venture with the carriers
sharing costs and revenues.
Virgin chairman Richard Branson will
retain his 51% shareholding in the UK operator. The acquisition and
joint venture will be completed by the end of 2013, Delta says.
Delta's
and Virgin's tie-up, which has yet to secure anti-trust approval, will
provide a combined transatlantic network covering 31 services between
the UK and North America. Twenty-three of these will serve London
Heathrow.
Singapore Airlines confirms it is divesting the 49% of
Virgin Atlantic it bought in March 2000. It says it has been evaluating
options for the shareholding for "some time" because the investment "has
not performed to expectations" and the originally-foreseen synergies
"have not materialised".
While Virgin has leaned towards partnerships with Star Alliance carriers in the past, Delta Air Lines is a SkyTeam member.
et http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/delta-and-virgin-atlantic-outline-initial-partnership-plans-380085/







Delta Air Lines and Virgin Atlantic
Airways plan to roll out codeshare and frequent flier partnerships
ahead of a metal neutral joint venture alliance across the north
Atlantic, as they seek anti-trust immunity.

Julie Southern, chief commercial officer of Virgin Atlantic, says
that the carriers have a "long regulatory process ahead" as they seek
immunity but intend to increase cooperation within the existing
regulatory limits ahead of approval, during a press conference in New
York today.

Atlanta-based Delta announced that it would acquire a 49% stake in
UK-based Virgin Atlantic from Singapore Airlines for $360 million
earlier today. The two airlines intend to form an immunised joint
venture between the USA and UK following the deal and anticipate
approval from EU and US regulators by the end of 2013.

"We need to get through the steps of the regulatory process first and
attain anti-trust approval before we make those announcements," says
Richard Anderson, chief executive of Delta, on any route or schedule
changes as a result of the partnership.

He says that both airlines anticipate little difficulty receiving
anti-trust immunity in the USA-UK market, as a Delta-Virgin Atlantic
partnership will have a smaller market share than the existing joint
venture between American Airlines and British Airways.

SkyTeam alliance membership is a possibility for Virgin Atlantic.
Southern says that the airline will evaluate membership and make a
decision in the next "few months".

"We will look at an alliance membership if it's the right thing to do in the future," she says. "We see this as a first step."

Anderson says that its existing joint venture partners Air France-KLM and Alitalia
are very "supportive" of the deal that he says will be very "positive
and accretive" for them. However, he specifically indicates that Delta
plans to have two immunised partnerships over the north Atlantic.

Southern adds that Virgin Atlantic will look at whether it can bring
additional benefits to the existing joint venture by flying to
Amsterdam, Paris and Rome in the future.

Connectivity will initially be an issue at London Heathrow. Delta
will continue to operate from terminal 4 and Virgin Atlantic from
terminal 3 due to space constraints at the UK airport, which is
undergoing renovations. Transiting passengers must take a bus between
the terminals.

"We hope to co-locate together at some point in time at terminal 3,"
says Southern, indicating that a move by Delta could be years away. She
says that Virgin Atlantic has made significant investments in the
terminal that it hopes to share with Delta customers in the future.

At New York's John F. Kennedy airport, both Delta and Virgin Atlantic operate from terminal 4.

The Virgin Atlantic brand will continue to fly under the new
partnership, despite speculation to the contrary. All of the executives
at the event emphasised the strength of the "iconic" Virgin brand.

"That actually gets my blood to boil a little," says Anderson in
response to the speculation. "Virgin Atlantic is an iconic brand. The
whole purpose is to join the brand and join the networks together."

"We're not going anywhere," says Richard Branson, president of Virgin Atlantic, at the event via a video conference.


Gros programme de partage de code à venir, avec un bémol : les deux cies n'ont pas le même terminal à LHR...
Est-ce à dire qu'on peut considérer qu'une cie américaine a enfin des A380 en commande Wink


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aeroduO5
Whisky Quebec

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par aeroduO5 le Mar 11 Déc 2012 - 22:41

Très belle afaire.

SIA me paraît lâcher l'affaire assez facilement d'un point de vu financier.

Mais bon, ils doivent vouloir sortir au plus vite.



Pour le terminal à LHR, n'oublions pas que des travaux très importants sont en cours.

Delta pourrait trouver une place dans le futur T2.

Poncho (Admin)
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 11 Déc 2012 - 22:43

Merci
Et du T2 au T3 c'est plus simple ?

Virgin vient en plus de récupérer des slots intéressant à LHR et relance les vols intérieurs...


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aeroduO5
Whisky Quebec

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par aeroduO5 le Mar 11 Déc 2012 - 22:47

Pour les connexions je suis pas assez expert de LHR.

Mais entre T1, T2 et T3, je crois que c'est plutôt simple.

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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 11 Déc 2012 - 22:58



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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 11 Déc 2012 - 23:05

http://www.heathrowairport.com/heathrow-airport-guide/travel-between-terminals

Et exemple entre T1 et T4 en transit international : 90 min minimum ... soit un Paris Nancy en TGV


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Frequent Traveller
Whisky Quebec

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Frequent Traveller le Ven 22 Fév 2013 - 12:20

Après les travaux de remise en condition de leur nouvelle raffinerie, visant à reconditionner le raffinage pour le recentrer sur la production en sortie de chaîne surtout de Kérosène, voici que les opérations commencent ... souhaitons à Delta de réduire ainsi leurs factures mensuelles de fuel :

http://www.aircargoworld.com/Air-Cargo-News/2013/02/delta-receives-first-bakken-crude-shipment-at-refinery/2112399

Poncho (Admin)
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Jeu 14 Mar 2013 - 10:58

Juste pour mémoire (en attendant plus de détail)
Mise à niveau de la flotte d'A330 avec lit plat en biz

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5712685/
A330-200 : 34 biz / 32 eco+ / 168 eco = 234 Pax
A330-300 : 34 biz / 32 eco+ / 227 eco = 293 Pax


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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 26 Mar 2013 - 16:52

Delta reprend JFK-Nice pour l'été
Cadence journalière
Avec un magnifique 767-400ER ! configuré en 0/39/28/178 = 245 PAX qui doit encore faire l'affaire

http://www.aviator.aero/press_releases/10976?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


NICE, 26 March 2013: Delta Air Lines (NYSE:DAL)
will restart its daily service between Nice and New York’s John F.
Kennedy International Airport effective Sunday, 31 March. The flight is
the only non-stop service between Nice and the United States and will be
operated this summer using a Boeing 767-400 aircraft featuring 39 seats
in BusinessElite; 28 seats in Economy Comfort, Delta’s premium economy
class and 178 economy seats. This flight is operated in conjunction with
joint venture partners Air France KLM.

“The return of our nonstop service marks the start of the summer
season on the Riviera and we are delighted to offer greater convenience
and more travel options for customers flying to the United States and
beyond,” said Beatrice de Rotalier, Delta’s commercial manager for
France. “Each year we see a high demand for this route, with load
factors exceeding 80% in 2012, demonstrating that our customers are as
pleased as we are to see Delta’s daily flight return to Nice.”

Delta’s flight departs Nice at 13:35 and arrives into New York-JFK at 16.50. The return flight departs New York-JFK
at 21.00 and arrives into Nice at 11:25 the next day. The service is
conveniently scheduled to connect with more than 60 destinations
throughout the United States, Latin America and the Caribbean, including
Los Angeles, Miami, Las Vegas and San Francisco.

Delta is making a number of significant investments in its products
and services to improve its customers experience on the ground and in
the air. These include Delta’s state-of-the-art, $1.4bn Terminal 4 at
New York-JFK that will open on 24 May. Customers flying between Nice and New York-JFK
this summer will benefit from a greatly enhanced airport experience on
arrival and departure at the airport. One of the largest terminals in
North America, Terminal 4 offers travellers a spacious environment with a
wide variety of shopping and dining options. For BusinessElite
customers, the Delta SkyClub at Terminal 4 features a Delta SkyDeck – an
outdoor airport terrace offering unprecedented runway views.

In addition to its service between Nice and New York-JFK,
this summer Delta will operate a further 24 daily flights between
France and the United States. The airline is expanding its operations
out of Paris Charles de Gaulle with a flight to Newark’s Liberty
International Airport, an additional service to Atlanta, a seasonal
service to Boston and year round service to Detroit. Altogether, Delta
flies from Paris Charles de Gaulle airport to 11 U.S. destinations:
Atlanta, New York-JFK, Newark, Cincinnati, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Detroit, Seattle, Boston, Salt Lake City, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia


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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 17 Avr 2013 - 14:26

Admin a écrit:Juste pour mémoire (en attendant plus de détail)
Mise à niveau de la flotte d'A330 avec lit plat en biz

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5712685/
A330-200 : 34 biz / 32 eco+ / 168 eco = 234 Pax
A330-300 : 34 biz / 32 eco+ / 227 eco = 293 Pax

Un petit peu plus de détail

Eco 2+4+2 B/E pinnacle, pas ? 31-32"
Eco+ 2+4+2 B/E pinnacle pas de 35"
Biz : weber cirrus lit plat 1+2+1

A priori on arrive à rentrer dans l'A330 le même nombre de lit plat en version zodiac cirrus que de fauteil biz classiques @60in lit incliné !


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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 17 Avr 2013 - 14:55

On peut d'ailleurs comparer avec les 787-8 d'united 36 / 70 / 113 = 219 Pax (pour des définitions en éco similaire, même si la cabine éco+ est plus grande, ça ne joue pas beaucoup sur la capa)

(234-219)/219 = +7% de capa pour l'A330-200 de quoi compenser une partie du handicap de l'A330 chiffré à 13% par place par Boeing (et donc 13% par voyage vu les capa retenues par boeing) en Cash operating cost (estimation boeing)


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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Jeu 23 Mai 2013 - 22:26

Bon pour Delta en coût total le 787-10 n'y est pas encore au niveau de l'A330-300 Wink

http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1369272512.html

Et donc la stratégie de delta c'est de ne pas prendre de risques avec les nouveaux avions et négocier de bons prix un peu plus tard...
Donc pas de max ni neo pour le moment


Airbus recently began talking up the lower ownership cost of its A330
wide-body jet as it defends the model against a proposed new stretched
version of Boeing's Dreamliner - the 787-10X. Airbus told a US industry
conference in March that the A330, whose sales have held up better than
expected due in part to 787 delivery delays, could compete with the 787,
implying price discounts to outweigh higher fuel consumption.


"We operate 33 A330s and were a launch customer in the US," Delta's
Anderson said. He added that should Boeing hope that its stretched 787
would take sales from the A330, "its prices have to come way down.


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Beochien
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Beochien le Dim 26 Mai 2013 - 17:02

Merci Poncho !

J'ai relevé aussi sur Fox, la même info, de Reuters !:
Visiblement, Boeing essaye de se refaire un peu sur le programme B787, alors que Airbus fait des remises conséquentes sur des A330 bien amortis !
------------------------

HARD BARGAIN ON 787
Airbus recently began talking up the
lower ownership cost of its A330 wide-body jet as it defends the model
against a proposed new stretched version of Boeing's Dreamliner called
the 787-10X. Airbus told a U.S. industry conference in March that the
A330, whose sales have held up better than expected due in part to 787
delivery delays, could compete with the 787, implying price discounts to
outweigh higher fuel consumption.

"We operate 33 A330s and
were a launch customer in the U.S.," Delta's Anderson said. He added
that should Boeing hope that its stretched 787 will take sales from the
A330, "its prices have to come way down."



Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2013/05/22/delta-will-wait-for-new-planes-to-mature-ceo/#ixzz2UPXFSDcP

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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 4 Sep 2013 - 16:43

Bon voici le communiqué pour la commande du jour

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=2095

"This Airbus agreement is another opportunistic fleet transaction for Delta in which we acquire economically efficient, proven-technology aircraft," said Richard Anderson, Delta's chief executive officer. "These A330s and A321s will provide tremendous flexibility for Delta to optimally manage our capacity over the next five years while further improving the flight experience for our customers and returns for our shareholders.

"Disciplined capital deployment is a cornerstone of Delta's comprehensive financial plan," said Paul Jacobson, Delta's chief financial officer. "These Airbus aircraft will generate free cash flow and improve our return on invested capital from the time they enter service."

Airbus A330-300
The 10 A330-300 aircraft will augment Delta's existing fleet of 32 A330s. The first A330 delivery is scheduled for spring of 2015, with three additional airplanes scheduled for that year, four in 2016, and the final two in 2017.

Delta will be the first airline to operate the enhanced 242-metric ton A330-300, which offers additional payload capacity and range. Delta will use the aircraft's versatility to optimize its Pacific and Atlantic networks.

These aircraft will be powered by General Electric CF6-80E1 engines. Delta currently operates similar GE CF6 engines on more than 60 widebody aircraft.

The A330 will feature 34 full flat-bed seats with direct aisle access in BusinessElite, 32 extra-legroom seats in Economy Comfort and 227 Economy seats. The international aircraft will feature in-flight Wi-Fi and industry leading in-flight entertainment with a library of more than 1,000 on-demand options, as well as standard 110v power, modern interiors with LED lighting, and extra-capacity overhead bins.

Airbus A321
The 30 A321s will expand Delta's existing fleet of 126 A320-family domestic aircraft. Delta's first three A321s are scheduled for delivery in the first quarter of 2016, with 12 more due in that year. The remaining 15 jets are scheduled for 2017.

Delta's A321 will be equipped with CFM56-5B engines produced by CFM International, a joint venture of General Electric Co. and Snecma of France. Delta operates more than 200 aircraft in its fleet today with CFM56 engines, including all Airbus narrowbody aircraft. The A321s will also feature wingtip sharklets, which will provide up to 4 percent improvement in fuel efficiency.

The Airbus A321 will have 20 First Class seats, 22 extra-legroom seats in Economy Comfort and 148 seats in the Economy cabin. Every A321 will feature in-flight Wi-Fi, industry leading in-flight entertainment with live satellite TV and on-demand options, and standard 110v power. The A321 will also offer Economy cabin seats that are among the widest in the industry.
4 A330-300 242 t dès le printemps 2015.

A noter que les A321 chez Delta auront +10 places vs les 737-900 Er (20F-22E+-148E vs 20F-21E+-139E)
C'est l'inverse du couple A320/737-8
Et sauf erreur de ma part, ce sont les même capas que les 757 actuellement en service


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Beochien
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Beochien le Mer 4 Sep 2013 - 16:58

Merci Poncho !

C'est une toute nouvelle cde , ou qq chose d'annoncé déjà ??
Zon l'air pressé pour les A321CEO ... pour ne pas avoir attendu des NEO !
C'est bien Airbus rempli le trou entre NEO et CEO !
Sûr que Delta a négocié de bons prix !


Dernière édition par Beochien le Mer 4 Sep 2013 - 17:00, édité 1 fois

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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 4 Sep 2013 - 17:00

C'est une nouvelle commande annoncée sous le fil idoine également
Patrick c'est perdu au Mans, alors je m'exécute


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Beochien
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Beochien le Mer 4 Sep 2013 - 17:09

Commentaire immédiat de Leeham , Scott Hamilton !

Noté que :

- Cela met fin au pacte de 20 années de Delta avec Boeing !
- Très méfiants chez Delta, les B787, sont déferrés vers 2020, les A330 permettront d'attendre !
- Aucune décision pour les NEO/MAX, Delta préfère attendre, mais maintenant Airbus a toutes ses chances !

JL a passé ses vacances aux States ??  pirat 

A lire !

http://leehamnews.wordpress.com/2013/09/04/delta-orders-airbus-a-look-back-at-the-history-between-the-two-companies/

Beochien
Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Beochien le Sam 7 Sep 2013 - 22:42


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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 8 Jan 2014 - 15:57

Gros programme de modernisation des mono couloirs chez Delta

http://airchive.com/blog/2014/01/08/delta-details-narrowbody-interior-improvement-blitz-will-spend-770m/

Je note surtout sur les A319-320 un nouvel intérieur complet

Delta’s 57 A319 and 69 A320 aircraft will receive complete interior updates including new seats in both First Class and Economy cabins with in-seat power throughout the aircraft. The aircraft will also receive new space-saving galleys, new lavatories, new larger-capacity overhead bins with an average increase of 60 percent more carry-on baggage space, updated LED lighting systems and new cabin interiors. Updates to the A319 fleet will also include the installation of in-seat video with satellite TV.

The A319 will include 12 seats in First Class and the A320 will have 16 First Class seats. All Economy seats on both aircraft types will feature wider seats with an increase from the current 17.2 inches to 18 inches for each seat. Both fleets will have 18 Economy Comfort seats with 34 inches of pitch. Economy seats will each have 31 inches of pitch on both aircraft with 102 seats on the A319 and 126 seats on the A320.

On sera donc
- 12/18/102 = 132 PAX A319
- 16/18/126 = 160 PAX A320 même capacité que les 737-800 de Delta donc


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Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par GP800 le Mer 8 Jan 2014 - 16:20

Ce qui revient à ajouter 2 rangées de 3 pax en éco. Le tout en restant à 31 ", les sièges seraient donc moins épais que les précédents...

L'A319 gagne le même nombre de pax et éco et 2 rangées de first alors que le 737-700 ne compte que 124 pax au total...

Même si certains A320 vont être retirés du service, ils vont quand-même rester encore pas mal de temps pour un refresh de ce niveau. Vu le nombre de 752 à remplacer.

En revanche, Delta n'a rien annoncé sur l'évolution des cabines des MD-80 et pas annoncé leur éventuel retrait du service (le plus ancien date de 1987).



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Whisky Charlie

Re: Delta ! DL ! DAL

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 8 Jan 2014 - 16:27

Merci GP800

Pour les airbus, il va y avoir tout un jeu avec le spaceflex à l'arrière, les WC optimisés et les sièges plus fins c'est sûr...
Probablement qu'en changeant les sièges dans les 737 des gains similaires son possibles


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