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MS760 Paris

Message par jullienaline le Mer 21 Oct 2009 - 22:59

Bonsoir à tous,

Voila une nouvelle étonnante et sympathique.
La société américaine JetSet Aviation Holdings vient d'acquérir les droits de notre bon vieux MS760 Paris.
Son idée est de lui faire subir une modernisation complète car elle considère que la plate-forme n'a pas pris une ride depuis les années 50.
Pour le promouvoir, elle sponsorisera une patrouille acrobatique de 2 appareils. A suivre.

JetSet Acquires MS760 Paris Jet Type Certificate

JetSet Aviation Holdings SAS, a subsidiary of JetSet International Ltd., is pleased to announce that it has reached an agreement with SOCATA for the purchase and transfer of the type certificate and associated rights for the world's first Very Light Jet (VLJ), the MS760 Paris Jet. Designed, manufactured and originally certified in France by aviation pioneer Morane-Saulnier (now SOCATA), the MS760 is a four-seat, twin-engine jet that cruises at 400 M.P.H. and has a range of 1,000 miles. The MS760 was awarded FAA Certification on July 3, 1958 and was introduced as the first business jet in North America by Beech Aircraft Corporation.

The type certificate will be licensed to MS760 Corp., which will provide engineering, sales and other related services for the MS760 platform. While the type certificate transfer is not expected until Q1 2010, MS760 Corp. has already acquired the manufacturer's drawings and tooling, spare parts and a fleet of over 30 MS760 aircraft.

"JetSet International Ltd. has long been interested in the MS760 potential in the VLJ and Personal Jet markets and remains committed to investing in the long term development of the MS760 platform," says Edward Furtak, president of JetSet. "In addition to investing in the acquisition of the type certificate from SOCATA, MS760 and its partners have invested in numerous engineering programs oriented toward updating the MS760, including a planned turbofan engine option."

A two-ship air show team, led by Captain Dale "Snort" Snodgrass, USN (Ret), has been announced to showcase the aerobatic and precision flight capabilities of the MS760, which is certified in the U.S. in the "Utility" category. "MS760 customers will be offered significant fuel discounts for their aircraft," says Mark A. Schneider, Esq., president of JetSet Global Fuel Inc. JetSet Global Fuel is the 2010 sponsor of the air show team.

The quality, reliability and performance characteristics of the MS760 have a well established history. "I'm thrilled to be the lead pilot for Team MS760. It's easy when you are given the keys to a machine that truly opens the envelope," says Captain Snodgrass. "The MS760 platform is a solid four-seat, IFR equipped aircraft with remarkable reliability and excellent flight capabilities."

A standard equipped MS760, with flight training and other special 2009 incentives included, will sell for approximately $550,000 US. Avionics upgrades, such as the Chelton, Avidyne and Garmin panels, are also available. Avionics purchase and airframe refurbishment completed in 2009 could qualify for 50 per cent bonus depreciation under the Economic Development Act of 2009.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/JetSet-Acquires-MS760-Paris-iw-1908194617.html?x=0&.v=1


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Ernest

Re: MS760 Paris

Message par Ernest le Ven 30 Oct 2009 - 11:17

Bonjour Jullienaline

Je tombe sur cet article

Décidemment la tendance est au revival !

Le Seastar, le Twin Otter...

Le Paris est un magnifique avion

Je profite pour glisser un lien

http://www.avionslegendaires.net/morane-saulnier-ms-760-paris.php

En espérant que tout cela ne soit pas que de la com...

En creusant un peu, il s'agissant de reconstruire quelques exemplaires à partir des stocks de pièces détachés ? c'est ça ?
Il semble que le stock de moteurs soit d'environ 60... (neuf ou remis à neuf). C'est un premier point ! Mais qui pourra assurer la maintenance et le suivi de ces moteurs.

Sans vouloir être rabat joie, la support constructeur (ou autre) pour les moteurs est crucial pour la vie d'un avion. Certains sont partis à la casse simplement parce que plus personne n'était capable de faire la maintenance.

Enfin, bon courage à eux !
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Re: MS760 Paris

Message par jullienaline le Mer 4 Nov 2009 - 23:46

Bonsoir à tous,
Bonsoir Ernest,

Tout à fait d'accord, la maintenance est cruciale et surtout pour les réacteurs.
Cela doit faire parti de la réflexion de JetSet car elle envisage une relance de la production avec une motorisation à base de Williams FJ44 ou même avec un seul Pratt & Whitney JT15D-4s . Pour la dernière, je demande à voir...

Elle envisage même de relancer la version allongée Paris III.



JetSet ponders launch of stretched Paris Jet

JetSet Aviation - the US company that is resurrecting the 1950s Morane-Saulnier MS760 Paris Jet - is mulling the development of a stretched version of the four-seat twinjet based on its 40-year-old MS-760C Paris III stablemate.
Only one of the six-seat twin-engined aircraft was built by the French airframer before development was halted in the mid-1960s because of poor customer take-up. This aircraft is stored in a museum at Le Bourget airport in Paris.
"This aircraft will perfectly complement our line-up," says JetSet Aviation founder Edward Furtak. There is a great deal of demand for a small high-performance business jet and this would be ideal for both the private and commercial aviation communities.
JetSet acquired the type certificate for the Paris Jet from Daher Socata last month, along with tooling, engineering drawings, spare parts - including more than 60 of the aircraft's Turbomeca Marbore turbojets - and plans to relaunch production of the 55-year-old aircraft with Williams FJ44 turbofans or as a single-engined type powered by Pratt & Whitney JT15D-4s.
"Type certificate transfer is expected early next year. We will offer the re-engined version as a retrofit initially," says Furtak, adding that the company has not ruled out offering both versions "if demand is strong enough".
The aircraft will also be equipped with a Garmin G600 glass cockpit and synthetic vision system and will be sold for around $550,000. "We will announce our engine choice before the end of the year, when we will also firm up the pricing and performance specification for the retrofit aircraft," says Furtak. Preliminary specifications reveal a cruise speed of around 400kt (740km/h) and range of 2,590km (1,400nm).
JetSet has acquired 22 Paris Jets from the French air force and 10 aircraft from private owners and the Argentinian air force, which retired its Paris Jets in 2007. "We have orders for 16 of these aircraft already that we hope to firm up in the coming weeks," Furtak adds.
The first retrofitted aircraft will enter service within 18 months, he predicts, "when the market should be buoyant again". The new production aircraft are expected to enter service within three years and the company expects demand to exceed 150 aircraft a year. "We will probably outsource the parts manufacture, but may undertake final assembly ourselves - this has yet to be decided," says Furtak.
Meanwhile, JetSet will continue to support the Paris Jet and will establish marketing, engineering and support programmes to help sell and maintain the existing inventory. The company says it will offer an introductory trade-up programme, special fuel pricing and financing.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/04/334319/jetset-ponders-launch-of-stretched-paris-jet.html

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Ernest

Re: MS760 Paris

Message par Ernest le Jeu 5 Nov 2009 - 22:41

Bonsoir !

Merci de ces compléments

Présenté comme ça ce projet a l'air plus que sérieux !

Il est intéressant de repartir aux sources de ces motorisations

Petite comparaison :

Marboré (fabriqué sous licence aux US par Teledyne) :
- simple corps, 1 étage compresseur, 1 étage turbine.
- Longueur 141 cm, diamètre 63 cm
- Poids 168 kg
- Poussée 400 kgp à 480kgp soit au max 1060 lbsf
- Température entrée turbine 650 °c

Certificat ici http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library%5CrgMakeModel.nsf/0/EDC8B0AAD7A90D0B862572A500750656/$FILE/E-302.pdf

Ce moteur est très simple. Un peu à l’image des premières turbines sur les Alouettes. Donc probablement très robuste. La température d’entrée de turbine est relativement basse.

La conso est de l’ordre de 460 l/h, ce qui cadre bien avec la capacité de 1800 l du MS760 et les deux heures d’endurance.

Williams FJ44 :

On peut trouver ça
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_FJ44

Gamme de poussée : 1500 à 3600 lbsf… soit au minimum 50% de plus que le marboré


Il est probable que ça soit le FJ33 qui puisse être adapté qui donne la bonne gamme de puissance pour de dimensions inférieures : 121 cm en long et 53 cm de diamètre.
Selon cette source, la conso s’établit à 270 kg/h soit environ 340 l/h soit 30% de moins que le Marboré tout de même.

Le problème du Williams FJ33 c’est que sa prod est fortement liée à des programme gelés


On peut aussi penser au PW600 et notamment au PW615F dont les dimensions sont proches du FJ33 pour un poids un peu inférieur au Marboré (140 kg)

http://www.pwc.ca/en/engines/pw600

Mais toutes ces solutions peuvent-elles s’accommoder de la position des moteurs du MS760 avec prise d’eau noyée à l’emplanture des ailes ?

Au passage : l’autonomie annoncée dans l’article est quand même juste le double de l’autonomie d’origine (probablement sans les réservoirs de bout d’aile).

Attendre et voir !

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