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alain57
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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par alain57 le Lun 11 Mai 2009 - 21:19

Dassault: dote le Falcon 7X d'une nouvelle cabine.

http://www.cerclefinance.com/default.asp?pub=valactu&localcode=∈=&art=237697

Dassault Aviation a dévoilé la nouvelle cabine intérieure de l'appareil Falcon 7X.
Le nouveau modèle provient de la collaboration entre Dassault
et DesignworksUSA, une filiale de BMW.

Le groupe aéronautique souligne qu'une attention spéciale à été donnée au développement du confort de la cabine pour des vols de plus de 13 heures.
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Poncho (Admin)
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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Lun 16 Nov 2009 - 13:51

Bonjour à tous

Le Falcon 7X est certifié en Inde

La formule trimoteur (c'est le dernier des mohicans tri-jet avec le falcon -900) s'accommode parait-il fort bien des conditions hot et high et des pistes courtes...

Dans le détail :

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/16/335027/dubai-09-falcon-7x-approved-for-india.html


Dubai 09: Falcon 7X approved for India
By Alan Peaford

Dassault Falcon (stand W310) is expecting a surge of orders from India following today's announcement at the show that the French manufacturer has received a type certificate for the Falcon 7X from India's civil aviation authority.

Falcon 2000 and 900 models are already certificated in India and around 16 large-cabin Falcons are in service in the country.

The first Falcon 7X in India will be delivered in January 2010 to Religare Voyages, a charter company based in New Delhi and part of a multi-billion dollar integrated transnational promoter group straddling financial services, diagnostics, health and wellness, and IT services, globally.

Religare Voyages operates a Falcon 2000, together with smaller jets and turboprops.






A dozen of other large-cabin Falcons including several 7X aircraft are on order for customers in India. The performance of the Falcons are especially valued in India, where short airfields, elevated runways and high temperatures are common.

Dassault has also established in the last few years a spares centre in Mumbai, along with a customer service team based in Mumbai, a liaison office in Delhi, and service centres approved by the Indian civil aviation authority.

"India has been one of our strongest markets over several years so Falcon 7X type certification is of real significance," says John Rosanvallon, Dassault Falcon president and chief executive.

"As the country's economy continues to strengthen, there will be an increasing need to connect India efficiently with other major centres of trade around the world. For example, the Falcon 7X provides direct, non-stop access from Chennai, India with London City airport."


Bonne journée


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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Lun 23 Nov 2009 - 22:33

Bonsoir,

Vous trouverez sous ce lien http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=bca&id=news/bca1109_p1.xml&headline=Flying the Oceans, a 7X Shakedown

un intéressant et long article sur un "accompagnement" sur un vol de Falcon 7X

Bonne lecture


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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Jeu 26 Mai 2011 - 23:23

Bonjour à tous

Les 7X cloués au sol

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/05/26/357263/easa-grounds-dassault-falcon-7x-after-pitch-trim-incident.html


The European Aviation Safety Agency and Dassault have jointly recommended grounding all Falcon 7X business jets after one of the long-range aircraft experienced an uncontrolled pitch trim runaway during descent.
"The crew succeeded in recovering a stable situation and performed an uneventful landing," said EASA in its airworthiness directive issued this afternoon.
The agency said that while "analysis of the digital flight data recorder and the fault history database confirmed the event, it did not explain the origin of the pitch trim runaway. If this situation occurs again it could lead to loss of control of the aeroplane."
Dassault is investigating the cause of the incident.

Décision Dassault et EASA

A suivre


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Whisky Charlie

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Jeu 26 Mai 2011 - 23:36



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Beochien
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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Beochien le Mer 1 Juin 2011 - 10:59

Bonjour !

Rien n'est réglé ... mais l'EASA autorise les Falcon 7X à rentrer à la maison (En ferry flight)
Le Falcon Présidentiel, planté à Deauville devrait donc aussi revenir , a Villacoublay ??

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/awx/2011/05/31/awx_05_31_2011_p0-329645.xml&headline=EASA%20Clears%20Falcon%207X%20Ferry%20Flights&channel=busav

JPRS
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Whisky Charlie

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Jeu 16 Juin 2011 - 8:14

Bonjour à tous

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/bav/2011/06/13/07.xml&headline=Dassault%20Develops%207X%20Modification&channel=busav


Dassault last week developed and validated a modification that it believes will enable the Falcon 7X to resume flight shortly, the company said late last week. At the request of the French airframer, the European Aviation Safety Agency and FAA issued emergency directives grounding the fleet late last month after one of the aircraft encountered “an uncontrolled pitch trim runaway during descent” (BA, May 30/2).

Dassault said on June 9 that depending on authority approvals and the logistics of distributing the modification kits, the first 7X trijets could have the modifications installed within 10 days. Dassualt is working with its authorized service center network and factory-owned centers to coordinate the installation of the kits on the 112 aircraft in the field. Dassault notes that the May 25 incident was the “first event of this nature that’s been reported since the aircraft entered service in 2007.”

Une solution a été trouvée et sous réserve de validation doit être installée sous 10 jours sur les avions
Quelle solution ?
Quel problème ?

enfin bonne nouvelle quand même

Bonne journée


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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Ven 17 Juin 2011 - 13:27

Bonjour à tous


La solution développée par Dassault est validée par l'EASA

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/06/17/358161/easa-clears-modified-dassault-7x-for-passenger-operations.html


The Dassault Falcon 7X fleet, grounded since 26 May awaiting rectification of a technical fault, has been cleared to resume passenger operations by the European Aviation Safety Agency.
The manufacturer said it expects the entire 112-strong fleet to be modified and airborne again by "early July".
Dassault Aviation said that the first 7X with an EASA-approved modification to its pitch trim system has "returned to operational status". The manufacturer added: "This follows an intensive effort by Dassault to create a solution that addresses a pitch trim incident experienced by a Falcon 7X on 25 May."
The airframer explained that the modification kit adds additional layers of protection to the Falcon 7X horizontal stabiliser pitch trim control system. After a series of tests had satisfied Dassault that it met requirements, the equipment went into production and was shipped to approved service facilities. The brief delay since then was because, in parallel, the modification had to be reviewed by EASA and the US Federal Aviation Administration.
On 15 June EASA approved the modification. Yesterday it released a new airworthiness directive that allows the aircraft to resume flights with passengers. Dassault said the FAA is expected to issue a similar decision shortly.
The manufacturer has been "in almost daily contact" with Falcon 7X operators, providing step-by-step progress reports on the situation since the company's advice to EASA and the FAA led to the emergency airworthiness directive on 26 May suspending passenger operations.
This followed a 25 May incident where a Falcon 7X experienced a pitch trim malfunction during descent. The crew successfully recovered the aircraft to a stable flight profile and landed safely.

L'AD sous ce lien

http://ad.easa.europa.eu/blob/easa_ad_2011_0114_E.pdf/EAD_2011-0114-E_1

Où l'on voit

1) une partie de la flotte est réautorisée à redécoller, parce qu'il reste un défaut sur une des deux pièces contrôlant le plan horizontal
2) des modifs hardware semblent nécessaire

Bonne lecture
Et à suivre


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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 20 Juil 2011 - 9:27

Bonjour à tous

Le 7X de libéré ou presque
Encore une étape en septembre pour retrouver les perfos d'origines

http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/all-falcon-7xs-now-cleared-to-fly-again-30571/


Practically all Dassault Falcon 7X business jets are flying again, following the EASA’s reauthorizing flights for the entire fleet on July 7. As of today, only three 7Xs were still on the ground, but not for any technical reason related to the runaway pitch trim incident that sidelined the fleet in late May, according to Dassault. The manufacturer has found a solution for the horizontal stabilizer electronic control unit (HSECU) part number -04. Operators can have the unit verified or, in the event it does not pass the verification test, replaced. The new one, part number -05, was developed by Dassault. In a June 16 AD, the EASA had allowed restarting flight operations for those Falcon 7Xs equipped with HSECU part number -02 (about 80 percent of the fleet, according to Dassault). Until September, when a software modification is implemented, all Falcon 7Xs remain subject to the flight-envelope restrictions Dassault had defined in June, notably with a Mach 0.85 Mmo, instead of Mach 0.90. The runaway pitch trim incident that sparked the grounding took place aboard a Falcon 7X approaching Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, on May 25.


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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mer 7 Sep 2011 - 8:46

Bonjour à tous

http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/easa-restores-falcon-7x-flight-envelope-31052/


Effective yesterday, an EASA Airworthiness Directive (AD) has restored the full original flight envelope for the Dassault Falcon 7X, providing the fly-by-wire control system is updated. Dassault has developed a modification of the system to improve “the monitoring and reversion logic of the horizontal stabilizer trim system,” EASA said. This modification results in “earlier failure detection and quicker reversion.” Dassault has released accompanying revisions of the aircraft flight manual and aircraft maintenance manual, thus introducing operational tests of the trim. Although it restores the flight envelope, the AD is still regarded as an interim measure. Further EASA action might follow to restore the full original certified minimum equipment list. The Falcon 7X was subject to restrictions, notably a Mach 0.85 Mmo instead of Mach 0.90, after the May runaway pitch trim incident that sparked a grounding and, later, limitations. A production defect in the horizontal stabilizer electronic control unit was corrected.

L'enveloppe de vol restaurée... même si ce n'est pour l'instant qu'une mesure provisoire ?


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Paul
Whisky Quebec

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Paul le Jeu 13 Mar 2014 - 17:06

Dassault lancera une version améliorée du 7X avec (peut-être) une nouvelle voilure (probablement celle du 5X) à l'EBACE. S'il veulent vraiment aller dans la cours des grands, faudra aussi allonger le fuselage par-contre.

http://www.air-cosmos.com/aviation-civile/dassault-va-lancer-une-version-modernisee-du-falcon-7x-au-prochain-salon-ebace.html
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aeroduO5
Whisky Quebec

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par aeroduO5 le Jeu 13 Mar 2014 - 19:19

Si ça se confirme qu'il s'agit d'un nouvelle aile et d'un allongement, ça ferait un sacré produit.
Dassault entrerait sur un marché où seuls BBD et Gulfstream seront présents.
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Whisky Charlie

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Lun 17 Mar 2014 - 14:12

Une nouvelle voilure et un allongement c'est un nouvel avion non?

Il me semblait que l'intérêt du 5X était notamment dans sa nouvelle section de cabine ... que le 7X amélioré n'aura pas.

Je vois plutôt une évolution légère qui permettrait peut-être d'accroitre la distance franchissable

Dassault va avoir les mais pleines avec le 5x ... donc je vois les choses à minima pour le 7X


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Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Lun 17 Mar 2014 - 23:43

Et hop

http://www.corporatejetinvestor.com/articles/dassault-set-launch-falcon-8x-ebace-214/

Donc on serait sur le 8X
Qui serait un 7X de 1 m de plus et 500 Nm de plus ce qui même autour de 6500 nm

Je ne sais pas en face de quoi ça le place, mais ça laisse de place pour faire évoluer le 5x (déjà) et attendre le 9X à base de fuselage de 5X.

Les PW307A ils peuvent donner quoi de plus ? le PW307B c'est quoi de différent ?


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Paul
Whisky Quebec

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Paul le Mar 18 Mar 2014 - 0:29

Avec 6500 nm, faudra une vitesse de croisière de M 0,85. L'aile du 5X devrait le permettre.
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Whisky Charlie

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 18 Mar 2014 - 9:52

Pourquoi faudrait augmenter la vitesse de croisière ?

Pour moi le 7X M1000 va sortir très vite pour que le joint entre le 7X classique et celui là ne soit pas trop difficile à gérer


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Paul
Whisky Quebec

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Paul le Mar 18 Mar 2014 - 10:04

Parce que c'est la vitesse des compétiteurs (Global 6000 et G550)
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Whisky Charlie

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 18 Mar 2014 - 11:01

Pour le 5X Dassault avait expliqué que la vitesse comptait moins que le nombre d'aeroports utilisables
Et là je crois qu'ils sont bien placés non ?


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Paul
Whisky Quebec

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Paul le Mar 18 Mar 2014 - 11:21

L'avantage sera surtout au niveau du bruit je crois, le BR700 est assez bruyant.
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Whisky Charlie

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Poncho (Admin) le Mar 18 Mar 2014 - 12:00

Je pensais bêtement en distance de décollage / atterrissage

Récemment vu passé des tweet avec le 7x à Saint Trop et Gstaad

http://www.sainttropez.aeroport.fr/files/docs/guide-infos-2013-2014.pdf

1180 m de piste : Atterrissage nécessitant une qualification de site ou qualification montagne

Saanen
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?runway=SZ1878926

1090 m à l'atterro, 1400 m pour le décollage à 1000 m en zone montagne

J'ai trouvé ce site, je ne sais pas ce que ça vaut mais... à creuser

http://jetadvisors.com/gulfstream-g550-performance/
http://jetadvisors.com/global-5000-performance/
http://jetadvisors.com/falcon-7x-performance/

Le dassault fait la différence à l'atterro...


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Paul
Whisky Quebec

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Paul le Dim 23 Mar 2014 - 14:51

Ça semble se confirmer, allongement de 1 mètre et autonomie de 6500 nm. Du coup on rebaptise 8X.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dassault-to-launch-falcon-7x-stretch-397308/
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Jeannot
Whisky Quebec

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Jeannot le Dim 23 Mar 2014 - 15:10

Je pense que Dassault à tout faux avec ce nom de 8X. Ils auraient du choisir 7XBeo.
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Beochien
Whisky Charlie

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Beochien le Dim 23 Mar 2014 - 15:24

CEKOICA ??  impatient
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Jeannot
Whisky Quebec

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Jeannot le Dim 23 Mar 2014 - 15:26

Just a bad joke...
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Beochien
Whisky Charlie

Re: Falcon 7X

Message par Beochien le Dim 23 Mar 2014 - 17:02

C'est bon ...  Wink

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