Boeing 787 (partie 1)

Rebonjour

Où l'on reparle du 787-10...

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=19864&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AtwDailyNews+%28ATW+Daily+News%29

Boeing's proposed 787-10 stretch may be back on the radar as the 787 and 747-8 programs are retiring risk, according to a new report from New York-based Bernstein Research.

The report, released yesterday, also highlights concerns that the 787 may be falling behind on its flight test hr., although Boeing remains within the margin to enable the first three aircraft to be delivered to ANA by year end.

Following meetings with Boeing management, Bernstein said the manufacturer is "more confident about potential 787 weight reduction, which has made the second stretch airplane, the 787-10, again a possibility." The research group noted that it "does not know specifically where the 787 stands on weight" but that Boeing expressed confidence that later airplanes will meet performance requirements.

"One measure of progress on the 787's weight is that management is again looking at the possibility of a second stretch, i.e., a 787-10," Bernstein stated. It sees the derivative, along with a 777 rework, as part of the manufacturer's response to the A350-1000.

It is generally accepted that the 787-8 was overdesigned for a high margin of error on structure and lightning protection. The view at Boeing "is that there should be substantial potential to take out structural weight," Bernstein said. Airlines originally were pushing for a 50-seat stretch over the 787-9 with identical 8,500-nm. range, while Boeing wanted a straight payload/range trade with a 7,000-nm. range (ATWOnline, July 10, 2007).

The Bernstein report raised concerns about rework given that 30 787s and 15 747-8s will be complete before certification programs are concluded. It noted that "the potential for significant rework still exists on both programs. The discovery last week in 747-8 test flight of buffeting due to airflow over the landing gear door is an example." That problem, however, is regarded as minor.

It said the overall risk of substantial rework on the 787 has come down significantly after successful flutter/stability control flight tests and structural static wing tests (ATWOnline, March 30).


by Geoffrey Thomas

A priori, Boeing pense pouvoir réaliser des gains de poids intéressant qui remettraient le double strech dans le circuit

A suivre

A noter que Boeing a depuis ces derniers jours réaffirmer plusieurs fois que le 787-8 aurait des performances conformes à celles prévues dans les contrats avec les cie... (à partir de quel exemplaire ?)

Bonne journée

Bonjour à tous

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=19937

Boeing is pressing forward with the 787 flight test program and believes first delivery to ANA by the end of November is feasible.

The manufacturer expects to obtain Type Inspection Authorization for the 787 this week after passing flutter and structural wing bending tests. TIA will formally kick off the FAA certification process.

Meanwhile, ZA005, the fifth flight test aircraft and the first powered by GEnx-1B engines, is on the flight line at Everett and is being prepared for its first flight, currently scheduled for May 8. The final flight test Dreamliner, ZA006, is expected to be in the air by June 4 and now is in building 40-24 adjacent to the 777 production line.

Boeing is conducting up to 90 hr. of flight testing weekly to support the delivery goal. By the end of November it plans to have built 30 delivery-standard 787s.

Visiting the 787 production line in Everett last week, ATWOnline saw ship LN17 (the first for Royal Air Maroc) as well as LN18 (for ANA) and LN19 (the second RAM aircraft). LN20, the first for Japan Airlines and also the first "weight-optimized" 787, started final assembly in late March.

Boeing confiant.
A priori le Type Inspection Authorization sera délivrée cette semaine ce qui permettra d'embarquer des ingénieurs FAA et de débuter la procédure de certification.
Le premier GenX est prévu pour prendre l'air sous le 787 le 8 mai

A priori 30 avions assemblés pour la fin de l'année...
Le premier 787 optimisé (LN20 pour JAL) a commencé à être assemblé fin mars

Bonne journée

Bonsoir à tous

Quelques nouvelles pour le 787 ici

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/commercial_aviation/ThingsWithWings/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbb&plckPostId=Blog%3a7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbbPost%3a4103e59c-f876-4e1e-a356-cf04e59f67a8&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

Bonne soirée

Bonjour à tous

http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/archives/202771.asp

Boeing's 787 Dreamliner received expanded type-inspection authorization from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration on Tuesday, clearing the way for FAA personnel to fully participate in future test flights and for the collection of required flight-test data.

Boeing also has finalized the aerodynamic configuration of the 787, the company said in a news release.

The FAA-granted initial TIA was Feb. 11. Expanded TIA came after Boeing showed the 787's readiness throughout a variety of speeds, altitudes and configurations, Boeing noted.

"This TIA expansion is another significant step toward delivering airplanes to our customers," Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of the 787 program, said in the release. "We remain on track to deliver the first airplane to ANA this year."

Regarding the aerodynamic configuration, Fancher said: "We have completed sufficient testing to decide that no additional changes to the external lines or shape of the airplane are required. Having an airplane match its expected performance with so few changes is rare and speaks to the maturity of the design."

Also Tuesday, Boeing confirmed that ZA003, the flight-test 787 that includes interior elements, is at McKinley Climatic Laboratory, on Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, for extreme-weather testing.

Finally, Boeing noted that it has released two videos, highlighting flutter and ground effects testing, at www.boeing.com and www.newairplane.com.

Config aéro figée
Expanded TIA pour le 787 permettant au personnel de la FAA de participer aux essais

La prochaine étape importante est le vol de l'exemplaire GenX

Bonne journée

Rebonjour,

Un article d'une source controversée sur la course aux slots du 787 maintenant que la crise semble un peu passée
Cas de Qantas qui semble courir après des slots qu'elle a libéré...

http://www.fleetbuzzeditorial.com/2010/04/14/boeing787-slots/

After the spate of devastating delays that have delayed Boeing’s flagship 787 by over two years, the slow but steady rise in air traffic and a rebound in yield is forcing some customers to rethink their next moves in relation to deliveries, slots and financing of their existing airplane orders.

LAN Airlines has already opted to bring forward some of its 787 deliveries while a year ago, Qantas was looking at deferring its 787 orders, a move which it enacted just after last summers Paris Air Show.



Image courtesy of Boeing

Now, the Australian carrier is prowling for early slots for its reduced 787 order, however, this search is proving to be unsuccessful as airlines realise that the value of their early delivery positions seems to far outweigh selling them on to rivals waiting farther back down the order queue.

All signs currently point to the 787 being able to meet its fourth quarter goal of being certified and delivered to launch customer All Nippon Airways. Given some of the buffer that has been used in the program and the relatively slow lay up of flight test hour accumulation, December 2010 has been earmarked as the month in which certification and initial handover will occur. Some of those same airlines that have deferred (and cancelled) their 787’s now find that trying to get early delivery positions between 2011 and 2014 will cost them more than the compensation they received for the delays to the program.

And even then, it is not immediately clear whether Boeing has “blocked out” slots for potential new customers like Air France and Lufthansa or indeed, whether some of the slot positions have not been made available to any customer so as to allow greater lead time between unit build up as production increases later this summer.

With premium traffic still waning, yield erosion is something that cannot be built up through volume - the economic basis on which the 787 was conceived appears to the saving grace for airlines as they look to slash costs wherever possible, not least because of the oil price rises this year alone has outsmarted even the best of fuel hedging strategists that airlines have working for them.

There is a now a real possibility that those financially weaker airlines waiting at the front of the 787 queue may forsake some of their early positions to the highest bidder - revenue is important for Boeing as it aims to improve the profitability of the 787 program and will not be concerned who it is building jets for as long as the cash register “ka-ching” sound keeps playing.

In a reversal of fortunes for the 787, the eagerness to grab early slots could just be the boon the program needs to make it more profitable than it is now.

Of course, next weeks first quarter earnings will shed more light on where the company stands vis-à-vis profitability, demand and slot availability.

Bonne journée

Bonjour

Jim Albaugh,
Jim Albaugh, head of Boeing's Commercial Airplanes division

Dans une conf de presse 1st Quarter, et une interwiew avec Dominic Gates du Seattle Times !

Le 787 va bien, il est sur les rails, et tiendra ses specifs ! Bien !
Le 787-10 de moins en moins clair , des pointillés qui s'éclaircissent , au profit de :
Un 777 sérieusement re-vampé, et "Plastifié !
En gros, aller en plein sur les plate bandes du A350-900-1000 avec un double stretch du 787, leur semble plus risqué à Boeing, que d'optimiser sérieusement le 777, dans 3-4 ans, pour en sortir un 6-8 % d'améliorations !
Re-travailler toute la wing box, le train, du 787-10 etc,aussi, pour dans 3-4 ans, alors que leurs chaine est saturée pour 7-8 ans, ben ça fait réfléchir !

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2011663067_boeing22.html


By Dominic Gates

Seattle Times aerospace reporter



Jim Albaugh, head of Boeing's Commercial Airplanes division


Boeing executives maintained a positive outlook for the year ahead as they reported healthy first-quarter profits Wednesday.

Despite the clouds of volcanic ash lingering over parts of Europe, they project a continued global economic recovery that will buoy the aviation business.

In a teleconference with analysts and news media, CEO Jim McNerney expressed renewed confidence in the schedule for both Boeing planes in flight testing: the 787 Dreamliner and the 747-8 jumbo jet.

Jim Albaugh, head of the commercial-airplanes division, also spoke glowingly about the 787's performance in a separate interview with The Seattle Times.

He said flight-test data show the 787 looks increasingly like the market game-changer Boeing projected it would be and will meet all the performance targets promised the airlines.



"Based on what I see from a performance standpoint, from an aerodynamic standpoint, from an engine standpoint, from a weight and range standpoint, I think we are going to be OK," Albaugh said. "The performance of the airplane very closely meets the models we had in place ... We're starting to feel very confident."

During the earnings call, McNerney said a larger version of the 787 that Boeing has studied, the 787-10, looks less likely.

He said improvements to the second version of the Dreamliner, the 787-9, as well as possible design changes to Boeing's larger 777, may cover the requirements of airlines in the large twin-jet category, without the need for a 787-10.

Potential changes to the 777 include new carbon-fiber structure, he said — presumably new composite wings.

Albaugh said later that McNerney was "commenting on some preliminary data that was shown to him," and no firm decision on the 787-10 has been made
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JPRS

Merci Beochien, ça semble ainsi plus clair, plus logique,plus pragmatique de la part de Boeing.
Cela semble, à première vue, dégager la route pour le 350-1000, qu'en pensez-vous ?

Salut Voodoo

Ce que j'en pense c'est que Boeing est en train de bien vendre son 787-9

Et donc soit

1) c'est de la survente... à la lecture des communiqués de presse Boeing que par rapport à ces performances calculées et pas ces perfo contractuelles

2) soit le 787-9 va être vraiment bon et bénéficier du retard et de la sortie de crise

Y a un petit couplet sur Fleetbuzz à ce sujet.

Le 777 est quand même une belle machine qui doit probablement pouvoir évoluer

Bonsoir !

Rien n'est écrit mais ... Boeing, sera proche des 1000 Cdes à l'EIS !
Et le 787-9 s'annonce comme un bon cru !
Le 787-10 lui s'annonce risqué et relativement "Petit"!
Donc la tentation du sandwich, avec un re-vamping à 2-3 milliards du 777, c'est dans la logique, surtout si le motoriste GE y mets sa part, ça reste à voir!
Attention aussi aux PB d'exclusivité GE soulevés par Sévrien en son temps !

Si le boulot est bien fait par Boeing, $$$$! le volume, la Q Pax, le fret, resteront à faveur de Boeing, l'avion est plus gros des Bi ! ! Mais pas forcément les coûts en $ /Seat par Mile !

JPRS

Bonjour !

PB de parking à Everett ? Boeing va squatter les espaces de stationnement !
Les 787 en cours d'assemblage vont devoir s'accumuler jusqu'a la certification, et les premières livraisons !
Au rythme de 2, 2 1/2 par mois, il y aura qq dizaines d'avions, à divers stades de finitions !

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http://www.king5.com/news/local/boeing-problem-too-many-787s-not-enough-room-92126269.html
by GLENN FARLEY - KING 5 News

KING5.com

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM


Everett, Wash. - There's one plane that is now dominating Boeing's Everett flightline - the 787 Dreamliner. And that has created a small problem for the aircraft maker.

Boeing's flight line is filling up and there are more 787s popping out of the factory each passing month. A lot more. The problem is that until the FAA certifies the 787, Boeing can't begin delivering them to airlines. In the meantime, the question has become where is Boeing going to park them all?

"The number is only going to grow," says Marc Britel a Boeing spokesman for both Boeing's Everett plant and the 787 program."A plan is being pulled together."

Boeing has already built quite a few of the 787s. Add in the ones currently being assembled, and you have 20-plus Dreamliners in existence.


JPRS

Bonsoir !

La cour est pleine à Everett Bis ! Ca continue !

Un bon mois de suspension des livraisons des fournisseurs du B787 !
Le ramp up à 2, et vers 2 1/2 787 par mois en aout , ben on n'en est pas là !
Une pause nécessaire pour éviter les débordements ! Les sous traitants qui livrent pour facturer ... aprés 2-3 ans d'attente, c'est presque incongru!

C'est pas pour demain les 10 par mois !

En espérant qu'il n'y ait pas des modifs en cours ou sous-jacentes (Pas de mauvais esprit JPRS )

-------------Bon, un article de Fightglobal ----------------

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2010/04/breaking-boeing-halting-787-de.html

Breaking: Boeing halting 787 deliveries to Everett until June
By
Jon Ostrower
on April 27, 2010 5:44 PM
Boeing will hold shipments of fuselage section for Airplane 23 at supplier partners to allow them to catch up, pushing the start assembly to early June, company sources confirm.

The halt in deliveries to Everett will not cease production activities at Final Assembly, the aircraft currently on the line, numbers 19, 20, 21 and 22 will continue undergoing assembly.

Program sources tell FlightBlogger that the plan is to hold deliveries for up to 24 manufacturing days, beginning at the end of this month and stretching into June. A typical month contains 22 manufacturing days with a 5-day work week. The hold is expected to last a total of four weeks and four days.

787 production had been running at a two aircraft per month pace, accepting deliveries from Boeing Charleston and supply partners every 10 manufacturing days. Production was supposed to accelerate from two to two and a half aircraft per month beginning in August.

--------------- Et un extrait de King5 --------------

http://www.king5.com/news/business/Boeing-to-stop-work-on-787-Dreamliner-assembly-line-92241209.html

Boeing says after the break, the assembly line should smoothly return to a normal schedule starting with airplane 25.

In a memo to employees 787 chief Scott Fancher says," This is not a production shutdown. In fact, we have plenty to do here in Everett to complete work on the airplanes we currently have in flow."

In other words, there's no need to lay any one off.

He adds. "We need to remember that we have made great progress in stabilizing the supply chain and improving our efficiencies in Final Assembly. Parts shortages and other production challenges are not unusual and happen occasionally on every airplane program."

What Boeing is trying to avoid, is doing any work out of sequence. Going back in installing parts on a nearly finished airplane is both time consuming and very expensive. It's this out of sequence work that's blamed for much of the real delays that affected the earlier years of the Dreamliner program, which knocked the program off schedule by about two years. .

Production of the sub assemblies of airplane's 23 and 24 will continue at Boeing's world wide group of suppliers. And when things are caught up, those parts will start coming together inside the factory and become real airplanes.

The adjustment doesn't affect ongoing flight testing for certification.

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De quoi rassurer les clients qui attendent depuis 2 ans ....
Faut leur proposer des A380 en attendant !
N'en jetez plus !

JPRS

Bonjour

Le commentaire de Yvonne Leach, concernant la suspension des livraisons des structures de 787 à Everett pour 5 Semaines !

Un peu plus précis dans le Seattle Times , une interwiew de Yvonne Leach, !
Le weight Ripoux serait en cause, la chasse au poids bat son plein pour le 787, Côté structure et planchers !
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b ... ing28.html
Boeing suspends delivery of new 787 sections to Everett

Boeing is halting deliveries of all new 787 fuselage sections and wings to the Everett assembly plant for about five weeks to iron out supply-chain problems.

By Dominic Gates
Seattle Times aerospace reporter

Boeing is halting deliveries of all new 787 fuselage sections and wings to Everett for about five weeks to cope with supplier delays that have caused extra work to pile up at the final assembly plant.

Essential parts haven't arrived on time at the plants of some major Boeing partners, spokeswoman Yvonne Leach said Tuesday.

She attributed part of the production holdup to design changes made to trim the weight of the 787 Dreamliner.

The delays won't affect the plan to deliver the first Dreamliner by the end of this year, Leach said, because the first production airplanes are already fully assembled in Everett.

An employee familiar with the problem at Boeing's 787 plant in Charleston, S.C., said floor beams and fuselage frames were among the major parts that have not showed up on time.

The major 787 suppliers affected, including Boeing Charleston, recently shipped Dreamliner sections that were only about 60 percent complete inside to Everett.

"Everett decided they can't handle any more traveled work," said the Charleston employee, referring to work left incomplete by a partner that must be finished at the final assembly site. He welcomed the delivery break because it will provide "more time to get things in order on this end."

JPRS

Bonjour Beochien !

Encore des problèmes de sections incomplètes... !

En plus on pourrait rajouter que si modif il doit y avoir suite aux essais en vol, plus y a d'avions "finis" plus y a de boulot à reprendre...
Sachant que ce genre boulot de rattrapage sera à faire en simultané sur le 787... et le 747... pour lequel on sait déjà qu'il a des pb de vibrations avec les flaps.

Oui Poncho !

C'est pour cela qu'i n'y a pas de risques de licenciements à l'horizon!

Mais un gros raz le bol concernant le boulot travelled quand même!
Et on les comprends à Everett !
Un vrai bazar type A380 ... Chacun son tour !

JPRS

Bonjour !

Dialogue autiste intéressant entre ANA et Boeing, pour la livraison des premiers 787 !
Je t'attends à l'heure, moi non plus !
Juste pour un bon mot (Et ne pas hésiter à l'appliquer aussi au 380 !)

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http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/30/341351/source-ana-braces-for-787-delivery-slip-despite-no-official.html

Source: ANA braces for 787 delivery slip despite no official change
By Lori Ranson

Boeing has made no changes to its 787 delivery schedule, but launch customer All Nippon Airways (ANA) is girding internally for another minor slip.

An ANA source at the Phoenix International Aviation Symposium says the carrier expects Boeing to make its best effort to deliver the first aircraft in late 2010, as Boeing's latest 787 schedule promises.

However, the carrier is bracing to receive the first aircraft in first quarter 2011, the source says.

A Boeing spokesman reconfirmed that the 787 schedule has not changed.

JPRS

http://www.salzburg.com/online/nachrichten/wirtschaft/Dreamliner-Auslieferung-verzoegert-sich-weiter.html?article=eGMmOI8VfiYE8jMrhsMjDwsvqCFxJCnbZ5xMLAf&img=&text=&mode=

nouveau retard en perspective pour le 787

QQ mois, de retard, sur le programme d'essais ... c'est un peu dans le tube ... depuis un mois, mais rien ne le confirme, à part cet article ... Autrichien, je crois !
Attendre des confirmation plus crédible, quand même !

JPRS

Bonsoir Pascal
Bonsoir Beochien,

A priori les essais en vol ne semblent pas aller aussi vite que ça
C'est une reprise d'un article de Focus à ce que je comprends.

Bonjour !

Le proto 787, ZA005, motorisé GEnx-1B, aux essais au sol ... pas trop en avance, mais ça arrive !
Et GE bien content d'avoir eu le temps de se mettre à jour pour les specs !

Toujours qq doutes sur un éventuel retard des essais ... allez, disons 2-3 mois pour l'instant !

---------------- De Aviation Week Extrait -------------------

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/avd/2010/05/13/02.xml&headline=Boeing%20Completes%20First%20Tests%20of%20GEnx%20on%20787&channel=comm

Completion of an hour’s first-start test has put Boeing and GE Aviation on track for flight of the initial 787 powered by GEnx-1B engines, although some are questioning whether the aircraft will meet its certification schedule.

Additional ground tests, including taxi trials, need to be completed before the aircraft (ZA005) takes off from Paine Field in Everett, Wash. The initial engine start is largely an assurance exercise that the airplane’s flight deck systems are properly displaying engine performance.

While ZA005 is expected to fly late this month, Boeing is saying only that it and the second GEnx-powered test aircraft (ZA006) will fly by the end of June. ZA006 is the last of Boeing’s flight test airplanes.

Delays in 787 development work enabled General Electric to improve turbine performance in the GEnx to put it “on target” to introduce an improved performance package early next year to meet fuel-burn goals. However, those engines are not part of the flight certification program.

The first of the engines are expected to be delivered by the end of this year in anticipation of supporting deliveries, beginning next March, to 787 customers who selected the GEnx, GE says.

------------ J'ajoute ...
David Strauss of UBS Investment Research estimates Boeing is roughly 20% through its flight test program and a month behind schedule.

20 % Seulement ... pour 1 mois de retard ... UBS encore à l'Ouest à mon avis !


JPRS

Bonjour à tous,

La photo Boeing.



http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1204

Amicalement

Bonjour ...

L'arrivée (On l'espère, mais ...) prochaine des B787, va provoquer qq remous dans les flottes, apportant peut être de l'eau au moulin des analystes de l'UBS ...
Que faire des avions déplacés, le marché global des avions, se rétrécit, cause du ralentissement du marché de pax, et du fret, et doit faire face à des prévisions de croissance nettement plus modérées que prévu !

Les lessors vont devoir affronter de plus en plus les propres Airlines, bien obligées de se transformer en Lessors, ou Sub-Lessors pour sortir à moindre perte de leurs flottes en obsolescence, pour cause de l'arrivée de nouveaux avions, commandés, peut être un peu vite d'ailleurs pendant les "Belles années" !
SIA hier annonce un Leasing de 777 à Brunei !
Air India cherche des clients pour ses 777-200 !
Ca ne fait que commencer, qui sera le prochain ??
Grands perdants ... les Lessors légitimes, qui d'ailleurs risquent de faire partie du peu enviable Hit Parade des annulations !
Lessors qui n'avaient pas besoin non plus, des futurs programmes de remotorisation !
Bon, c'est le business, chacun sa peine ....
Demandez à Renault de sauver Hertz ... et vous verrez ce que dit Carlos !

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http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/05/15/342008/air-india-expects-to-take-first-787-next-march.html


Air India expects to take first 787 next March
By Brendan Sobie

Air India expects to begin taking delivery of new Boeing 787s at the end of next year's first quarter.

"Boeing is now offering us March 2011," Air India chairman and managing director Arvind Jadhav told ATI during a Star Alliance event in Sao Paulo.

While Air India is looking to sublease nearly half of its new Boeing 777-200LR/-300ER fleet, Jadhav says the carrier requires 787s as soon as possible because the aircraft are critical to its plans for improving its intra-Asia operation.

"The 787 is going to change the game," Jadhav says. "It is really required for our market. That's why we ordered 27."

Jadhav adds the 787 will give Air India a competitive advantage on Asian regional routes such as Delhi-Hong Kong, resulting in increased feed for its long-haul routes. "That's why we are a little unhappy in the delays of the 787," Jadhav says.

Air India's 787 deliveries have been delayed multiple times since the carrier ordered 27 Dreamliners in January 2006.

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Des clients potentiels !

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/05/15/342007/air-canada-garuda-thai-and-air-austral-could-sublease-air-indias.html

Air Canada, Garuda, Thai and Air Austral could sublease Air India’s 777s
By Brendan Sobie

Air Canada, Thai Airways International, Garuda Indonesia and Reunion Island-based Austral have expressed interest in subleasing Boeing 777-200LRs and 777-300ERs from Air India.

Earlier this year Air India announced plans to lease out a large portion of its new 777 fleet as part of a cost cutting programme. Air India chairman and managing director Arvind Jadhav says the carrier has so far received responses from Air Canada, Thai, Garuda and Air Austral.

"There are four responses. We are evaluating them," Jadhav told ATI during a Star Alliance event in Sao Paulo.

Air India is in the process of joining Star while Air Canada and Thai are already in the alliance.

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Des annulations de Lessors .........(Merci le Cousin, Aweb)

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2010/05/cao-report-six-cancelled-787s.html

CAO Report: Six canceled 787s tied to AWAS
By
Jon Ostrower
on May 14, 2010 11:14 AM | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBacks (0) |ShareThis
A report by Flightglobal partner Commercial Aviation Online (CAO) identifies Irish aircraft lessor AWAS as having cancelled its order for six 787 aircraft. The cancellation brings the net 2010 787 order total to 9, following the cancellation of 10 aircraft by Air Berlin and the finalization of United's order for 25. The AWAS order was formerly held by the Pegasus Aviation Finance Company and before that originated as a four aircraft 2004 order by Italian charter operator Blue Panorama for the 7E7. Pegasus increased its order in 2006 to six aircraft.

Boeing currently holds orders for 860 orders for the 787.


JPRS

B787 première prise en mains des pilotes d’ANA






SEATTLE, deux pilotes de la compagnie de lancement du
B787 ANA (All Nippon Airways) ont effectués une première prise en mains
de l’avion lors d’un vol de deux heures et quarante minutes.
Les pilotes d’ANA, le capitaine Masayuki Ishii, directeur de
planification des pré-opérations et le capitaine Masami Tsukamoto,
directeur des opérations pour le B787 «Dreamliner» étaient accompagnés
du pilote d’essais en chef, le capitaine Christine Walsh et le capitaine
Mike Carriker. Pendant le vol, les deux pilotes japonais ont effectués
plusieurs décollages et atterrissages, ainsi que d'autres manœuvres qui
leurs ont permis de sentir les caractéristiques de l'avion. Les
pilotes ont également acquis de l'expérience en familiarisation du poste
de pilotage du B787, y compris avec les écrans de visualisation large à
double affichage tête haute.Le vol était effectué en vertu d'un
certificat de navigabilité spécial accordé par la Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA). Les deux pilotes japonais sont qualifiés
sur B777 et il ne leur faudra que cinq jours pour être transformé sur le
B787 «Dreamliner» !
Photos : 1 Les pilotes japonais à leur descente 2 Le premier B787 d’ANA aux essais @
Boeing

http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/archive/2010/05/15/b787-premiere-prise-en-mains-des-pilotes-d-ana.html

Merci Skylander ...
Mais d'ou viens cette foutue traduction ??
Des "Capitaines" Sic, transformés en 5 jours !
Houlà !
Au secours Vector !

JPRS

...formidable en effet...
ANA a déjà touché son simu ?
Éventuellement , c'est la similitude qui fait le simu...

Question à ce sujet:
Comment se fait-il que quelques AR CDG-LHR suffisent à qualifier les PNT (ex 340 ? ) sur 380 et que les PNT ANA (ex 777) ne puissent pas être qualifiés 787 en quelques 5 jours intensifs?
La "philosophie" interopérabilité est pourtant la même.
A moins que je me trompe.

Faudrait demander à un pilote AF ..;
Mais je dirais que les AR CDG-LHR, vont durer qq mois, et q'un décollage atterro, pour 1/2 heure de vol cela doit être plus intéressant et rapide pour la formation, juste mon avis ...
Ce qui n'exclus pas des participations sur d'autres vols ...

Et, les 787 d'essais Boeing, ne sont pas des avions ANA, non plus ...

Je crois plutôt que Boeing a , de fait offert une petite prise main plus politique et commerciale en attendant de livrer ... dans 6 mois, ou plus peut être !

Airbus a fait pareil avec le A 380 !

Beochien,
Pour ta gouverne, ce sont des Suisses qui parlent de Japonais, alors...
Il m'ont assez embêté à me poser des questions d'arithmétique dans le simulateur du Convair 990 Coronado sur lequel je m'appliquais à faire une spirale à prise d'attitude constante.
A part ça, je ne vois pas non plus pourquoi il faut 5 jours pour passer d'un 777 à un 787. Slow learners ou pour les mettre en appétit en attendant ?

Bonsoir à tous,

Histoire de se détendre un peu, une belle photo du 787 avec un de ses ancètres, le Boeing model 40 :



http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=13&item=1123



http://www.airlinereporter.com/2010/05/pictures-boeing-787-flying-with-boeing-40c/

Amicalement