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    Message par Paaddy Lun 2 Fév 2009 - 12:19

    Les deux Spartan italiens déployés au profit de la Joint Task Air Force en Afghanistan depuis le mois de septembre 2008 sont revenus à leur base de Pise

    Histoire sur Aviation Week :


    The aircraft have carried
    out more than 200 operational flying hours, completing 50 missions and
    transporting 1,500 passengers and 30,000 pounds of cargo. The aircraft, which
    made up the Task Group Albatros, part of the Joint Air Task Force (JATF) that
    controls all the Italian air assets in theater, have been employed in a variety
    of roles, including medevac, cargo and personnel transportation. They have been
    operating from both the main Kabul
    airport as well as from regional airport and from tactical strips in support of
    the four remote PRTs (Provincial Reconstruction Teams) in the Western Regional
    Command area.

    The C-27Js belongs to the
    Pisa Air Force Base 46th Aerobrigade, which has so far received 10 of the
    planned 12 C-27Js. The last two aircraft are to be delivered before the end of
    the year.

    The JATF has carried out in
    2008 a
    total of 4,600 flight hours, with 1,400 having being flown by the Predator
    unmanned aircraft. The JATF has transported a total of 16,000 passengers. It is
    organized in several task groups: Devil, with the Mazar-e Sharif Tornado recce
    aircraft, Astore with the Predator, Albatros with the C-27J and now with a
    single C-130J, Pantera with the Italian Navy AB-212, Fenice with the Italian
    Army CH-47C
    and AW-129 and Tigre
    with the Air Force AB-212.

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/C27013009.xml&headline=Italian%20C-27Js%20Complete%20Afghanistan%20Ops&channel=defense
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    Message par sevrien Lun 2 Fév 2009 - 12:37

    Merci, Paddy ! C'est 'bien' !

    C'est la preuve que disponibilité rapide et opérabilité valent bien plus, en temps de besoins ("in theatre", .... avec la notion non limitée à celui de la guerre, seulement).... que le 'nec plus ultra'.

    Et ceux, qui avancent l'adage, "Le Mieux est l'ennemi du Bien", devraient s'en souvenir et le pratiquer ! Wink
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    Message par Beochien Ven 27 Fév 2009 - 23:20

    Négociations rompues entre Alenia et Boeing !
    Pour l'assemblage de l'énorme cde USAF de C-27-J !
    la FAL de Jacksonville Fla. seule avec les Italiens ! une opportunité pour d'autres, ou une cata pour les Italiens ... les travaux commencent ???
    Plus d'intérêt commun, reconnaît Boeing sur fond de crise !

    hou hou EADS .... besoin d'une part dans une Usine US !
    Pour démarrer des A400M ou des Tankers dans 3 Ans !
    Wink Wink Wink

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    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/JCAP022609.xml

    Boeing, Alenia split on C-27J JCA

    Feb 26, 2009

    Amy Butler/Orlando, Fla. abutler@aviationweek.com

    Boeing and Alenia Aeronautica have terminated all discussion about cooperating on the U.S. C-27J Joint Cargo Aircraft (JCA).

    The two companies have been in talks for 2.5 years to come to an industrial partnering agreement and parted ways last year, only to return to the bargaining table. But this time the separation is final, say representatives for both companies.

    L-3 is the prime contractor for the program, but Boeing and Alenia were in talks to create a 60/40 joint venture for the final assembly facility. Now, all discussions have ceased, the representatives say.

    The change in strategy is being blamed on the general economic conditions. "It was not about the team, it was not about the airplane," says a Boeing official. The two companies also were able to navigate problems around the dollar-euro exchange rate.

    Boeing says it is no longer interested in getting into the small airlifter market, instead focusing its efforts in the "mobility" sector on the C-17 strategic airlifter.

    Alenia North America officials insist the turn of events is not affecting JCA plans. The design for the final assembly site at Cecil Field in Jacksonville, Fla., is now frozen, and site clearance should commence next week. Alenia says it is spending around $100 million on developing the Jacksonville facility. The first JCAs come off Alenia's final assembly line in Italy.
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    Message par alain57 Lun 20 Avr 2009 - 19:11

    U.S. military orders seven additional C-27J JCA aircraft

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/L3-Announces-the-Order-of-bw-14970666.html?.v=1

    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/6873/

    13:28 GMT, April 20, 2009 NEW YORK | L-3 Communications (NYSE: LLL), the prime contractor for the U.S. Army and Air Force Joint Cargo Aircraft (JCA) program, announced today a $203 million order of seven additional aircraft by the JCA Joint Program Office. This January 2009 order brings the current contract total to 13 aircraft.
    L-3 leads an industry team that includes aircraft manufacturer Alenia Aeronautica, Rolls Royce, Honeywell and Dowty.
    “We are very happy with the team’s performance and progress on the program,” said James Burkhardt,
    president of L-3’s Platform Integration division.
    “This latest order reflects the confidence that the U.S. government has in our abilities to continue to perform at the highest levels,” said Giuseppe Giordo, president and chief executive officer of Alenia North America and co-chief operating officer of aircraft manufacturer Alenia Aeronautica. “Our team’s intense focus on
    delivering on our commitments remains absolutely critical as we continue to meet the needs of our customers worldwide.”

    With the first two C-27J aircraft delivered and crew training under way, the program continues to progress on
    schedule and on budget. Following the on-time delivery of the first aircraft in 2008, the first C-27J JCA training class commenced in November 2008, preparing pilots and loadmasters to perform multiple mission roles and serve as instructors.

    To learn more about L-3, please visit the company's Web site at www.L-3com.com. L-3 uses its Web site as a channel of distribution of material company information. Financial and other material information regarding L-3 is routinely posted on the company’s Web site and is readily accessible.

    Backgrounder:

    * The C-27J is a mid-range, multifunctional and interoperable aircraft able to perform logistical re-supply, MEDEVAC, troop movement, airdrop operations, search and rescue, humanitarian assistance and homeland security missions for the U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force. The C-27J will replace the U.S. Army’s C-23 Sherpa and portions of the US Army’s C-12 and C-26 fleet. The C-27J will augment the U.S. Air Force’s existing fleet of intra-theater airlifters. The aircraft will play a key role in providing responsive aerial sustainment and critical re-supply support for the maneuver force.

    * The C-27J Spartan has been in production in Italy since 2001, and has been delivered to Bulgaria, Greece, Italy and Lithuania. It has also been ordered by Romania and Morocco. The C-27J Spartan has been most recently selected by Slovakia with contract negotiations underway.
    Orders to-date, follow-on contracts, as well as international, foreign military and variant sales are expected to extend orders for the C-27J to more than 200 aircraft.

    * The C-27J Spartan is the latest in a successful tradition of military airlifters, which includes the C-27A Spartan and the G.222, which have been deployed by NATO, Coalition Forces, the United Nations and Italy. The aircraft has been used successfully in support of military and humanitarian operations in Albania, Armenia, Bosnia, Cambodia, Congo, Operations Desert Shield and Storm, East Timor, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Honduras, Kosovo, Libya, Mali, Panama, Rwanda, Somalia, Uganda. and Yemen. C-27A Spartans are currently carrying out vital counter-drug activities for the United States in Central and South America.

    Related articles:

    First C-27J delivered to the U.S. Armed Forces
    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/3191/

    Finmeccanica wins another huge U.S. order
    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/2857/

    First C-27J Joint Cargo Aircraft presented to U.S. Army and Air Force
    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/2778/

    Alenia Aeronautica: C-27J Spartan - Joint Cargo Aircraft successfully completes first flight in Italy
    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/1215/
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    Message par alain57 Ven 29 Mai 2009 - 23:56

    Alenia Aeronautica deliveres twelth and final C-27J to Italian Air Force

    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/7723/

    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/7691/

    16:11 GMT, May 28, 2009 Today, at its Caselle South facility, Alenia Aeronautica completed deliveries to the Italian Air Force (AMI) with the delivery of the twelfth C-27J. The aircraft was delivered to the 46th Air Wing based in Pisa. Today’s ceremony completes the deliveries of aircraft that began in January 2007.

    The AMI C-27Js include an advanced and sophisticated configuration that, in addition to the basic configuration, includes an in-flight refuelling system, self-protection and a flight-data-projection system
    on two head-up-displays, one per each pilot, to be able to operate also in the most complex operational scenarios.
    Alenia’s contract with the AMI includes Logistics Support at the Pisa base until the beginning of 2012 and the
    delivery of a Flight Simulator for the AMI Training Centre at Pisa in December 2009.

    The C-27sJ replace the AMI fleet of G.222s, from which they have inherited capability and excellent operating performances displayed in operations both in Italy and overseas for the transport of troops and materials,
    civilian protection, airdrop of cargo and paratroopers, fire fighting, and search and rescue.
    Combat proven, the C-27J has been deployed to Afghanistan by the Italian Air Force from September 2008-January 2009 in support of coalition military and humanitarian operations. The C-27J fleet of the AMI
    has accrued over 5,000 flight hours, a milestone celebrated at the military base of Pisa this past May 19th.

    The “numbers” of the C-27J are excellent: The C-27J is able to take-off from and land on unprepared strips, shorter than 2,000 ft with a maximum take-off weight of 67,241 lbs; the aircraft can transport up
    to 68 troops or up to 46 fully equipped paratroopers plus two loadmasters and, in MEDEVAC/CASEVAC configuration, 36 stretchers plus six medical assistants.

    The large cargo cross section (8.5 feet in height and 10.8 feet in width) together with the high floor strength (cargo capacity of over 3,320 lbs/ft), allow for the transport of heavy military equipment.
    The C-27J it is the only aircraft of its class offering interoperability with heavier airlifters in service with other NATO air forces, also thanks to its large cabin cross section, allowing the transport of NATO-standard
    pallets.
    The C-27J is a twin-engine turboprop tactical transport aircraft with state-of-the-art technology, avionics, propulsion and systems. It demonstrates superior performance over its competitors in all weather
    conditions, cost effectiveness, extreme operating flexibility.
    The C-27J is equipped with powerful engines (two Rolls Royce AE2100-D2 rated at 4,650 SHP power) and an advanced avionics system designed for integral mission security and reliability with significant system redundancy. This permits the aircraft to operate in any weather condition and in any operational environment, the excellent design and performance of these systems results in a low workload for the pilots.

    The C-27J is designed, developed and tested as a true military aircraft using military standards to produce a robust, safe and performing aircraft, and has obtained Military Qualification Certificate. At the same time the C-27J is airworthy to civil standards, as witnessed by its certification from the Civil Aviation Authority.

    The C-27J has been ordered by the Italian, Greek, Bulgarian, Lithuanian, Romanian, Moroccan Air Forces, by the United States’ Army and Air Force for a total of 121 planes, and it has been selected by Slovakia’s Air Force.
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    Message par sevrien Sam 30 Mai 2009 - 8:15

    Bonjour, alain, et chers tous !
    Oui, cet avion C-27 Spartan se prépare petit à petit sa base installée !

    On se rendra compte que, à force d'accumuler de "petites commandes", ici et là, il va arriver à un bon "score" !

    Il est indéniable qu'il fait partie de ces appareils, dont on ne parle pas trop, et qui sont capables d'abattre un travail considérable !
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 22 Sep 2009 - 23:31

    Bonsoir,

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/09/22/332620/alenia-proposes-power-and-lift-upgrades-for-c-27j.html


    Alenia proposes power and lift upgrades for C-27J
    By Stephen Trimble

    Alenia Aeronautica is considering a major power and lift upgrade as the baseline C-27J Spartan is set to launch a critical set of flight tests to achieve US FAA certification .

    The C-27J Joint Cargo Aircraft (JCA) will start airworthiness flight tests the week of 28 September, and the fleet is on track to receive certification during the first quarter of 2010.

    Alenia is planning to propose two major upgrades as priced options for the programme's new USAF leadership, who will officially take control of the C-27J budget and requirements on 1 October.

    The upgrades include boosting the normal maximum landing weight to 29,500kg, increasing lift capacity at range by 2,000kg, and raising maximum thrust authority on the Rolls-Royce AE2100 Liberty engines by 10% to 31,500kg.

    The power increase is a function of changing the software for the engine's full authority digital engine control (FADEC) system, which regulates the engine's maximum output, senior Alenia officials say.

    The extra power would not reduce the engine's durability, because it would only be allowed in emergency situations. Alenia officials described an army desire to maintain operational climbing rate on takeoff even despite the loss of one engine.

    The programme's future has been clouded by a major shift in numbers and leadership. Although Alenia and L-3 Communications were selected in 2007 to supply 78 aircraft to the army and USAF, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates unveiled a 2010 budget proposal that delivers 38 C-27Js to the USAF only.

    Alenia delivered the first two C-27Js to the army last October to conduct flight tests. The third aircraft is scheduled for delivery by January and the fourth is expected in March or April. All four aircraft should deploy in September or October 2010 to a combat theatre.

    Meanwhile, Alenia is mulling options for final assembly. The original plan called for opening a new facility in Jacksonville, Florida, but that was based on the US military buying a minimum of 78 aircraft. One option under consideration is to leverage facilities owned by DRS Technologies, which Alenia parent Finmeccanica acquired last year. DRS owns a facility in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, to support the US Coast Guard's CASA HC-144 fleet.


    Le programme arrive à un tournant, malgré la réduction des commandes de 78 à 38 avions inscrite au budget 2010. Alenia se pose d'ailleurs la question d'où assembler si peu d'avions sur le sol américain.
    Les essais en vol pour la certification FAA vont débuter.

    Alenia travaille sur une augmentation du MLW à 29.5 t (+2t) augmentant d'autant la charge utile (de 11.5 à 13.5t)

    Alenia travaille aussi sur une modification de la régulation moteur pour conserver les performances en vol sur 1 moteur avec un masse au décollage augmentée de 1 t (31.5 t)

    Bonne soirée


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    Message par jullienaline Ven 25 Sep 2009 - 16:58

    Bonjour à tous,

    Le premier G-222 / C-27A reconditionné pour l'armée de l'air afghane est livré. 17 autres devraient suivre. Si je ne me trompe pas, il semble qu'ils ont été racheté à l'Armée de l'Air italienne.

    Alenia Delivers the First Modernized G.222 Aircraft to the US Air Force for Afghan National Army Air Corps


    CAPODICHINO (NAPLES), Italy--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Alenia North America, a subsidiary of Alenia Aeronautica and part of the Finmeccanica Group, delivered the first modernized and refurbished G.222/C-27 aircraft to the United States Air Force this week. The delivery ceremony took place today at Alenia’s Capodichino facility outside of Naples, Italy, where the refurbishment and modernization line is located. This is the first of 18 G.222/C-27 aircraft under contract with the United States Air Force for incorporation into the Afghan National Army Air Corps (ANAAC).
    ...
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Alenia-Delivers-the-First-bw-4050265658.html?x=0&.v=1

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    Message par jullienaline Mer 21 Oct 2009 - 22:48

    Bonsoir à tous,

    Nos amis lithuaniens ont reçu leur 3ème et dernier Spartan.

    Lithuanian Air Force Introduces Last C-27J "Spartan" Aircraft

    October 21, the third of the three C-27J „Spartan" aircrafts purchased by the Lithuanian Air Force will be introduced, named and christened in a ceremony at the Military Airfield of LAF Šiauliai Aviation Base.
    ...
    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/10711/

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    Message par jullienaline Jeu 22 Oct 2009 - 22:17

    Bonsoir à tous,

    Avec une photo c'est mieux.

    C 27 Spartan D1aac0fbd8adb32702a43d7cf32bd06ad451f550_big
    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/10756/

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    Message par jullienaline Mar 27 Oct 2009 - 21:47

    Bonsoir à tous,

    Le Spartan dans L'US air Force, cela se rapproche.

    Alenia Aeronautica's C-27J 'Mini Herc' set to join U.S. Air Force fleet

    Air Force plans to include the C-27J Spartan, the latest propeller-driven airlifter planned for the Air Force inventory, are steadily progressing.

    In April, through Resource Management Decision 802, Defense Secretary Robert Gates moved the C-27J program and its related direct support mission from the Army to the Air Force. Since April, the Air Force and Air Mobility Command have taken a serious approach to building the program, officials said.

    "The program is in transition from an Army-led joint program to a sole Air Force program," said Lt. Col. Gene Capone, AMC's C-27J test manager at the Joint Program Office. "Making a switch like this is no small affair, especially at this phase in the acquisition process. Because the Army lost all fiscal year 2010 C-27J funding due to RMD 802, the Air Force is funding the Army to continue leading the program through completion of Multi-Service Operational Test and Evaluation."

    The Air Force will field 38 C-27Js, operated by the Air National Guard. Two are currently going through qualification and operational testing.

    According to Air Force officials, the C-27J is an "extremely rugged" aircraft, designed for austere environments. And, although it has yet to complete its testing, they say it should thrive in the "dirt."

    "Think of the C-27J as a 'mini-Herc' -- it looks like and acts like a C-130, but it is about half the size (3.5 pallet positions versus 6 to 8 pallets for the C-130)," Colonel Capone said. "This smaller size brings efficiency of scale to the Air Force's portfolio of airlifters."

    The colonel also said the aircraft is very powerful and agile.

    "It flies a lot like a C-130, but with a bit more power for its weight," he said. "Of course, as with most airplanes the pilots who fly the aircraft love it -- myself included."

    AMC officials here say work to make the C-27J capable of fully supporting the Army's needs in the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility is also continuously progressing.

    "The Secretary of Defense gave the C-27J and its mission to the Air Force and we are 100 percent committed to making this work," said Maj. Gen. Brooks Bash, director of AMC's Air, Space and Information Operations Directorate.

    A formal test is taking place from October through December in Iraq to gather information on this new Air Force mission.

    "This test will help us work out the command and control structure of the direct support mission and help us to validate requirements," said Col. Bobby Fowler, also with the Air, Space and Information Operations Directorate.

    Air Force officials say there is still a lot to do as more and more C-27s come into the inventory.

    "A concept like this will take time and effort, but most importantly it will also require feedback from the forces," Colonel Fowler said.

    AMC and Air Force officials plan to continuously review and update the C-27J using input from field commanders until it is incorporated into joint doctrine.
    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/10840/

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 12 Déc 2011 - 12:07

    Bonjour à tous

    Le C27 et sa grande soute cargo fait saliver les australien
    Le C295 ne fait pas l'affaire à priori

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/asd/2011/12/09/02.xml&headline=RAAF%20Wants%20C-27J%20Rather%20Than%20C295%20&channel=defense


    LANGKAWI, Malaysia — Australia’s air force has made it clear publicly that it prefers the Alenia C-27J over the Airbus Military C295.

    The chief of the Australian air force, Air Marshal Geoff Brown, says a letter of request (LOR) has been issued for the C-27J, but no such request has been issued for the C295. All that has been issued for the C295 is a request for information in regard to pricing, he says.

    Australia has a long-standing requirement for tactical transport aircraft to fill the void created when the country’s military phased out its de Havilland Canada DHC-4 Caribou aircraft. It is clear that the C-27J is a more expensive aircraft, so the Australians may be using the C295 pricing to negotiate a more competitive deal with Alenia.

    Brown says the issue the air force has with the C295 is there are some types of Australian army military vehicles that the C295 is unable to transport. He cites as an example the army’s new G-Wagon all-terrain vehicles.

    He says armies in Europe may be content to just drive a G-Wagon, but “you have long distances in Australia,” so these vehicles have to be transported by air.

    The Australian air force could use larger aircraft, such as its Lockheed Martin C-130s, to transport the G-Wagons. But Brown says “then you end up with small loads on the C-130 and this is not an efficient use” of the aircraft. He also says the air force wants to avoid a situation in which the Australian armed forces’ Boeing CH-47 Chinook helicopters are used for airlifting such cargo. These helicopters are “better for tactical scenarios,” he adds.

    Brown spoke to Aviation Week on the sidelines of the LIMA Airshow in Langkawi, Malaysia, on Dec. 7.

    Airbus Military chief Domingo Urena-Raso also spoke to Aviation Week at the show. He says he hopes that Australia will open up the tactical transport requirement to a competition in which the C295 is allowed to participate.


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    Message par Beochien Sam 5 Jan 2013 - 14:39

    Bonjour !

    Le Spartan est dans la tourmente (Et Alenia aussi!)
    Et pas seulement pour des raisons de politique US ...
    La fiabilité opérationnelle n'est pas au rendez vous semble t'il !
    Et Alenia n'a peut être pas (Plus) les moyens financiers de suivre ...

    Pas un trop bon signe pour les projets d'ATR, ça m'étonnerait qu'ils lancent l'ATR 90 seuls et sans l'aide d' EADS après ce revers !

    -----------Vu sur Aviation Week, le lien et un extrait ----------- !

    http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/asd_01_04_2013_p01-02-533438.xml

    U.S. Air Force Halts Troubled Afghan Air Force Transport Deal

    "The Afghan transport decision leaves Alenia little stateside work beyond March.

    The moves come after what Air Force officials called “failed attempts” by Alenia to “generate a sufficient number of fully mission-capable aircraft for effective [Afghan Air Force] airlift capability.” According to Ed Gulick, a service spokesman, “Though the Air Force assisted Alenia throughout the program in an effort to help the program succeed, Alenia struggled to consistently achieve key contractual requirements.”

    An industry official says Alenia is exploring whether it has any recourse to the decision. As the decision is not a contract termination, there is little opportunity for significant termination liability costs to be reimbursed. And without a major U.S. prime contractor involved, the company does not have significant weight in Congress to seek political help outside the Pentagon.

    In 2008, the U.S. paid $314 million for the purchase of 20 former Italian Air Force G.222s — designated the C-27A by the Air Force — to give to the fledging Afghan National Army Air Corps, later the Afghan Air Force, an independent tactical transport capability to replace Soviet-era Antonov An-32s.

    However, their introduction to service has been far from smooth. Only 16 of the aircraft have been delivered to Afghanistan, with four remaining in Italy. Despite a deployed team of contractors, the aircraft struggled with serviceability issues and have been grounded twice — once in December 2011 on airworthiness grounds, and again in March 2012 because of safety issues that delayed the training of Afghan personnel. That forced the use of smaller Cessna 208 Caravans and Mi-17 helicopters for transport operations."

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    Message par Paul Sam 5 Jan 2013 - 14:57

    Salut,

    À la défense du constructeur, ce sont des appareils d'occasion remis à neuf (des G.222 appelé C-27A). Celui qui est produit aujourd'hui est le C-27J. Même pas les même moteurs.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenia_C-27J_Spartan
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeritalia_G.222
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    Message par Beochien Sam 5 Jan 2013 - 15:16

    Merci de la précision Paul !

    Il n'en reste pas moins qu'Alenia prend des bouillons financiers avec ses Spartan, contrats US et autres, ce n'est pas trop bon pour les nouveaux projets d'ATR confused !
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 7 Oct 2013 - 16:07

    Paul, qu'est ce que tu pense de ça ?
    http://www.stripes.com/new-air-force-planes-parked-in-arizona-boneyard-1.245554

    Juste l'entame

    New cargo planes on order for the U.S. Air Force are being delivered straight into storage in the Arizona desert because the military has no use for them, a Dayton Daily News investigation found.

    A dozen nearly new C-27J Spartans from Ohio and elsewhere have already been taken out of service and shipped to the so-called boneyard at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson. Five more are expected to be built by April 2014, all of which are headed to the boneyard unless another use for them is found.

    The Air Force has spent $567 million on 21 C-27J aircraft since 2007, according to purchasing officials at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Sixteen had been delivered by the end of September.

    The Air Force almost had to buy more of the planes against its will, the newspaper found. A solicitation issued from Wright-Patterson in May sought vendors to build more C-27Js, citing Congressional language requiring the military to spend money budgeted for the planes, despite Pentagon protests.


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 7 Oct 2013 - 16:09

    En fait j'aurais du mettre ça

    Former Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz testified before Congress last year that the military wanted to divest its C-27J fleet to come in line with budget cuts. He said the C-130 can do everything currently asked for and costs $213 million to fly over its 25-year lifespan. The C-27J, on the other hand, would cost $308 million per aircraft.


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    Message par patrick1956 Lun 25 Nov 2013 - 15:42

    je pense que cet article a sa place ici


     http://www.journal-aviation.com/actualites/25046-le-perou-commande-deux-c-27j
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    Message par Beochien Lun 25 Nov 2013 - 15:50

    Pendant qu'on en parle, j'avais vu ça last week  !

    Diverses admin US se battent pour récupérer les qq C27 livrés et cocoonés aux US, consolation tardive pour Alénia .... !

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-coast-guard-wants-c-27j-spartan-planes-2013-11
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 6 Déc 2013 - 16:19

    http://www.aleniaaermacchi.it/en-US/Media/News/Pages/An-innovative-fire-fighting-system-approved-for-the-C-27J-Spartan.aspx

    Qu'en pensez-vous?
    Des containers en carton plein d'eau largués par la porte arrière ?
    Innovant n'est ce pas !


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    Message par Beochien Ven 6 Déc 2013 - 16:38

    6000 litres, empaquetés, hum ! Le C-27 emporte beaucoup plus, 11500 kg !

    J'ai cru un instant que les cartons arrivaient complets au sol, What a Face  (Bonjour les pompiers) mais ils ont quand même la bonne idée de se désagréger en l'air, d’après les photos, ouf !

    Bon, si c'est un largage plus où moins manuel, ou juste assisté, côté précision , hum !
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 6 Déc 2013 - 16:54

    Perso j'aurais dit : Hum hum !

    Et le désastre si un carton se sent mal en plein vol Very Happy


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    Message par patrick1956 Lun 30 Mar 2015 - 21:02

    le Pérou réceptionne son premier C27
    http://www.journal-aviation.com/actualites/29318-le-perou-receptionne-son-premier-c-27j
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    Message par Paul Lun 3 Aoû 2015 - 15:47

    Le C-27 aura aussi des winglets, le proto a volé la semaine dernière:

    http://www.aleniaaermacchi.it/-/completed-flight-test-c-27-j-with-winglet-prove-volo-completate

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    Alenia Aermacchi a écrit:In-service benefits include improved hot and high runway performance, increased payload, range, endurance and the overall deriving reduction in operating costs.
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    Message par patrick1956 Lun 3 Aoû 2015 - 16:20

    sympa la photo

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