Commandes d'A350-XWB au Bourget, 2009 ?

Merci, pascal83 !

pascal83 a écrit:Selon info Air & Cosmos N°2174

Turkish Airlines commanderait au salon PAris air show 2009 une 20aines A350.

Oui, ... effectivement, ... on lit :

Le prochain Salon du Bourget .....devrait être l'occasion pour Turkish Airlines d'annoncer une commande pour 20 Airbus A350(XWB), options comprises. Un contrat qui s'inscrit dans les cadre du plan de flotte de la compagnie jusqu'en 2023, et qui porte sur un total de 75 appareils, dont 25 gros-porteurs.

Bonne nouvelle potentielle, donc !

J'apporte ces commentaires.
Tout en reconnaissant que je peux me tromper, il me semble que A&C mélange des données entre cdes. fermes et options. Je me rappelle un chiffre de 105 cdes., au total, options comprises, et 75 cdes. fermes.

Pour les 25 gros-porteurs, il me semble qu'il s'agissait de 25 cdes. fermes, dont 5 ont déjà été attribuées (5 x B777-300ER), en raison de la disponibilité rapide de ses avions.
Dans ma tête, les 20 x A350-XWB seraient des cdes. fermes.

Il y aurait 50 cdes. fermes en "monocouloir" (panachage entre les familles B737NG et A320, ces dernièrs étant à moteurs IAE V2500, me semble-t-il).

Il y aurait, en tout, 30 options (c'est -à-dire,.... cela donnerait : 75 cdes. fermes + 30 options = 105 au total).

A voir ! A suivre.

Désolé ! Je ne comprends pas pourquoi il apparaît 2 topics, alors que je n'en ai instruit qu'un seul !

Au secours !

Merci d'avance.

Bonjour Sévrien

Je m'en occupe

Ah enfin la section le Bouget 2009 inaugurée
Merci Pascal, Sevrien et Art_way !

Que le grand show (de crise) commence !

art_way a écrit:Bonjour Sévrien

Je m'en occupe

Vu ! Merci, art_way !

Encore un lien, ... mais qui fait référence à Air & Cosmos !
http://www.aerocontact.com/actualite_aeronautique_spatiale/ac-l-actualite-aeronautique-en-bref~08176.html

L’Airbus A350XWB chez Turkish Airlines ?
Selon l’hebdomadaire français Air & Cosmos du 29 mai, la commande de Turkish Airlines attendue au prochain salon du Bourget comprendrait 20 Airbus A350 (options comprises). La, ou les variantes choisies n’ont pas été précisées.

L'info a fait le tour de la planète. Je l'ai trouvée sur Airliners aussi. Reste à savoir si elle est vraie. Je ne vous pas pourquoi elle serait fausse.

J'avais aussi vu sur Airliners qu'Iberia commenderait quelques 340 (dont celui qui dort actuellement à Toulouse) mais là j'y crois moins compte tenu de la baisse de voilure entreprise par la compagnie.

L'info sera sans doute vraie, ... "in fine" ! Mais, .... "confirmée" au Salon du Bourget ?

Peut-être ! Tout est possible !

Commande annoncée au Bourget ?

AirAsia X order for Airbus A350s imminent

By Siva Govindasamy

AirAsia X, the Malaysia-based long-haul low-cost airline, is likely to place an order for the Airbus A350 shortly as part of its expansion plans.
The carrier, an associate of Southeast Asian short-haul low-cost airline AirAsia, had been deliberating between the A350 and the Boeing 787. However, AirAsia Group CEO Tony Fernandes says that it has made a decision.
"We have pretty must settled on the A350 and an announcement is
imminent," says Fernandes. "It is clearer in our mind that the A350 is
a replacement for the [Airbus] A340s. It can last longer on the 4-8h mark that is AirAsia X's focus."
He did not say how many aircraft would be ordered, but AirAsia X has
said before that it could buy up to 25 aircraft. A timeline for the
delivery of the A350s has not been established.
AirAsia X will eventually have a fleet mix of Airbus A330s and
A350s, says Fernandes, who added in an interview with Airline Business
that this would help it to serve the the bulk of its growth markets
that are within a 4-8h mark out of Kuala Lumpur. This includes
destinations in Japan, South Korea, Australia, the United Arab
Emirates, Bahrain, India and China.
AirAsia has a 16% stake in the long-haul operation. Aero Ventures,
which Fernandes started with other prominent Malaysians and Air
Canada's Robert Milton, owns 48% of the long-haul operation. The other
investors are Richard Branson's Virgin Group [16%], Bahrain's Manara
[10%] and Japan's Orix [10%].
"AirAsia X is a wonderful addition; it brings the brand to another
level. Look, it is sexier flying to London and Melbourne than Bandung,"
says Fernandes.
"But without AirAsia's short-haul market and the connectivity to
Southeast Asia it offers, there would be no AirAsia X. That is why it
will be hard for anyone else to emulate it. Look at Oasis Hong Kong -
what else did they offer apart from flights to London? Is it any
surprise that they had to shut down?"

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/06/04/327373/airasia-x-order-for-airbus-a350s-imminent.html

Bonjour, chers tous. Et merci, art_way !

Oui ! RR confirme le principe de la chose, mais ne révèle aucun détail concret ! Normal ! Discrétion oblige !

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/06/04/327373/airasia-x-order-for-airbus-a350s-imminent.html

Commande" iminente d'airasia X pour A350

C'est bon Pascal, pas de soucis !

Lien :
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_lite.php?id=418479
Airasia Announces Purchase Of 10 A350 Aircraft By Airasia X
KUALA LUMPUR, June 16 (Bernama)

-- AirAsia, the world's leading budget airline, tuesday announced a firm order for 10 Airbus A350 XWB aircraft by its low-cost long-haul affiliate AirAsia X.

The purchase is set to seal the group' vision to be the world's first long-haul and short-haul low-cost airline, AirAsia said in a statement from Paris.

Pas mal ! Encourageant. Et, du point de vue d'Airbus, ce premier marché, après celui des A330-300, est pris par Airbus, plutôt que par Boeing (B787 ! ).

AirAsia X has selected the A350-900 variant for its fleet, which will be configured to seat 425 guests in a two-class layout.

Config. "dense" ! C'est le moins qu'on puisse dire !

The announcement was made by AirAsia and Airbus at the Paris Air Show.

C'est fait, donc !

"Business is all about timing and long-term strategy. At AirAsia we have always planned for the long term," said AirAsia group chief executive officer Datuk Seri Tony Fernandes. He said by buying the Airbus A350, AirAsia and AirAsia X have now got its strategy fixed all the way to 2020.

Il est clair que le marché a été favorable pour ce type de commande maintenant !

"The vision of creating the world's first long-haul and short-haul low-cost airline is complete and we are all very excited," he said.

Oui ! Lui & Sir Richard BRANSON se sont positionnés avant Michael O'LEARY !

Valued at a list price of US$2.2 billion, the deal comes with an option of another five A350 aircraft.

L'A350-XWB avance !

Deliveries are scheduled between 2016 and 2018, which will further complement AirAsia X's fleet of A330.
The airline has ordered 25 A330s that are due to be delivered through 2015, of which two aircraft have been delivered so far since October 2008.

Belle flotte !

AirAsia, ....the largest customer of Airbus A320 aircraft with a firm order of 175 aircraft and the option for another 50 signed in 2005.

Sixty A320s have been delivered so far and the remaining will be delivered through to 2014.

Ces Cies. sont devenues très rapidement d'importants clients pour Airbus !

The purchase indicates AirAsia X's ambition to fly further afield and to serve more destinations than it currently serves that include London in the United Kingdom, Melbourne, Perth and Gold Coast in Australia, and Tianjin and Hangzhou in China.

"Under the current great uncertainties in global economy where legacy airlines are cutting routes and grounding staff and aircraft, AirAsia and AirAsia X are determined to fulfil and realise our potentials," said Fernandes, who is also director and founder of AirAsia X.

"The economic downturn presents AirAsia as Asia's largest low-cost carrier, an unprecedented opportunity to gain market share with our low-fare, high-quality business model," he said.

Monsieur FERNADES et ses équipes vont déranger !

"We selected the A350 XWB for the step-change it offers in terms of operating economics and its exceptional passenger appeal," said AirAsia X chief executive officer Azran Osman-Rani.

"We believe the A350 aircraft will be an industry game-changer that will allow us to dramatically operate with unprecedented unit costs for long-haul flights to Europe and North America, opening up new tourism markets and exciting destinations," he said.

"With the A350 XWB in our fleet we will be able to set new standards in the low-cost long haul market, making it possible for more people to fly further in comfort at ever more affordable prices," he added.
-- BERNAMA

AirAsia & AirAsia X, soudain, ont une perspective intéressante et très "challenging" devant les yeux !

Pour info' :

Autre lien :
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/06/16/328251/paris-air-show-airasia-x-orders-up-to-15-a350s.html
DATE:16/06/09. SOURCE:Air Transport Intelligence newsPARIS AIR SHOW: AirAsia X orders up to 15 A350s
By....

AirAsia X has ordered 10 Airbus A350-900 aircraft and placed options on five more.
The Malaysian low-cost long-haul carrier disclosed the agreement at the Paris Air Show today.
First deliveries of the aircraft are due to take place in the first quarter of 2016.
AirAsia X had been weighing up the A350 against the Boeing 787 but earlier this month indicated it had settled on the Airbus twin-jet.
A350s are currently available only with the Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engine.

Rien à ajouter.

A350s are currently available only with the Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engine.

Je cite le post de Sevrien. N'y avait-il pas des rumeurs de monter de GE sur le 350XWB qui devaient être annoncées au Salon ?

Il manque encore à l'appel la commande de Turkish Airlines. Non ?

Bonsoir, Jeannot.

Jeannot a écrit:

A350s are currently available only with the Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engine.

Je cite le post de Sevrien. N'y avait-il pas des rumeurs de monter de GE sur le 350XWB qui devaient être annoncées au Salon ?

Non ! Dans l'état actuel des choses, on ne peut même pas monter une rumeur qui "fasse illusion" !

Jeannot a écrit:Il manque encore à l'appel la commande de Turkish Airlines. Non ?

En matière de commandes, tout peut être, en théorie, possible. Mais le bruit d'une commande de Turkish Airlines, à annoncer au Bourget 2009, relève encore de la spéculation.

Même si une telle commande devait se confirmer, sauf erreur oui omission de ma part, il n'y rien d'objectif ou de factuel qui permette de l'anticiper !

Mais ILFC pourrait ("pourrait") passer des commandes de B787 et d'A350-XWB !

Il y a le temps de voir venir ! Il faut sortir les bonnes nouvelles aux "forceps" au Bourget 2009 ! A sa chaque jour suffit sa bonne nouvelle !

Mais comme le temps s'améliore, l'atmosphère du Salon aussi et... nous aurons sans doute quelques surprises....