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Vietnam Airlines switches 787 order to -9s

By [url=mailto://]Bredan Sobie[/url]

Vietnam Airlines expects it will have to wait until 2015 to receive its
first Boeing 787 after switching its 16-aircraft order from the -8 to the
stretched -9 due to unexpected performance limitations on the original
model. The government-owned flag carrier first ordered four
787-8s in 2005 for delivery from 2009. In 2007 Vietnam Airlines ordered
four more 787-8s and Vietnam Aircraft Leasing ordered eight 787-8s on
behalf of the carrier. Vietnam Airlines CEO Pham Ngoc Minh says
its 787 deliveries have since been delayed six times by Boeing
and the carrier has had to switch to the -9 because the -8s no longer
meet the carrier's performance requirements. Minh explains the -8s are
now too heavy to economically operate long-haul routes from Vietnam to
Europe and North America. "The -8 doesn't meet the performance
guarantee as they told me," Minh told Flightglobal on the sidelines of
this week's SkyTeam meeting in New York. "We found the -8 is a heavy -8;
it's not the original -8 they committed to." The bigger 787-9,
which follows the 787-8 in development, is now scheduled to enter
service at the end of 2013. But Minh says Boeing is only offering
Vietnam Airlines -9 slots from 2015. He says Vietnam is trying to
speak to Boeing about moving up to earlier 787-9 slots but so far it
has been difficult to get a firm plan from the manufacturer. "They've
delayed six times already. I don't know how many more times they will
delay," he says. For now Boeing still lists all 16 787s ordered
by Vietnam Airlines and Vietnam Aircraft Leasing as -8s. It is not clear
why Boeing has not formally changed the order to -9s but the
manufacturer could be waiting to conclude a re-negotiated deal with its
Minh says waiting until 2015 "is not our requirement" and "in the interim we
continue to negotiate with Boeing". He adds Vietnam Airlines is
now looking to expand its Boeing 777-200 and Airbus
A330 fleets to fill the gap caused by the extensive delivery delays
to its 787s. Vietnam Airlines also has 10 A350-900s
on order but Minh says these are not scheduled to be delivered from
2014, or only slightly ahead of the carrier's first 787-9. Minh
says Vietnam currently operates 20 widebodies - 10 777-200s and 10 A330s
- but its fleet plan includes at least 40 widebody aircraft by 2015.
Vietnam requires the 20 additional widebodies over the next five years -
plus another 15 to 20 widebodies in the 2015-2020 timeframe - to meet
an ambitious expansion plan that will see the carrier launch new routes
to Australia, Europe and North America. "With manufacturers it's
sometimes difficult for me to push them, especially for next-generation
because for next-generation they have certain difficulties. But the
market is there and we have an ambitious plan," Minh says. "We can't
wait. We have to add more A330s and maybe more 777s until the time we
can replace all of it." He adds Vietnam Airlines plans to use its
787-9s and A350-900s on similar missions but the carrier needs to
acquire both types because neither manufacturer has enough slots to meet
the carrier's requirement for 55 to 60 widebodies by 2020.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/06/24/343611/vietnam-airlines-switches-787-order-to-9s.html

Money from the IPO may help pay for some aircraft on order. Vietnam Airlines head of fleet planning, Nguyen Thi Thanh Van, says they have 26 Airbus A321s on order for delivery in 2012-2014 and are evaluating A320-family aircraft, with the new engine option, for delivery in 2015-2020. She also says they have 10 A350-900s on order and have agreed to lease four more, two from CIT and two from ILFC. They also have eight 787-9s on order and have agreed to lease a further three from ILFC and eight from Vietnam Aircraft Leasing Co. (VALC), says Van.

Vietnam Airlines is a major shareholder in VALC, but chooses to lease some aircraft through VALC because the other major owner in the leasing company is state-owned Bank for Investment and Development of Vietnam (BIDV). This means the leasing firm has more access to capital.

Van says the carrier plans to take delivery of its first A350 in 2015, a leased aircraft. She also says it plans to receive its first 787-9 that same year. Vietnam Airlines currently has 74 aircraft, according to the Aviation Week Intelligence Network database. Van says in 2020 it will have 170 aircraft. The other type of aircraft it plans to order are jet aircraft with fewer than 150 seats. Minh says the carrier will order at least 15-20 units. Van says the types being considered are the Bombardier CSeries, the Mitsubishi Aircraft MRJ and the Sukhoi Superjet. She declines to say when a winner will be selected or first deliveries will arrive.

Beochien a écrit:Comme quoi, un carnet de cdes ce n'est pas si significatif, tant que l'achat n'est pas Financé !

Vietnam Airlines a commandé une 20 taine d'A321, et les finance au coup par coup un mois avant livraison ...
Si tout le sud est Asiatique et l'Inde sont comme ça ... les avionneurs n'ont pas fini de se faire des cheveux blancs !

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/business/global-markets/2013/03/13/372918/Vietnam-Airlines.htm

Poncho (Admin) a écrit:bonjour

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/vietnam-airlines-assesses-777x-a350-1000-for-usa-s-444077/

Pour des vols direct vers les USA dès fin 2019... VN regarde les a350-1000 (dispo à cette date) et des 777-9 (qui ne volera pas encore)



SGN-LAX 7100 Nm
MNL-JFK 7400 NM

Philippine s’apprête à desservir MNL-JFK en A350-900 HGW (280t) et presque 300 pax

l'a350-900 280 t devrait donc aussi marcher pour SGN-LAX

massemini a écrit:Pourquoi 2 modèles différents pour cette petite fourchette de capacité (280/330), à peu près sur les mêmes distances une fois que le -10 fera le plein