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Emirates discute d'un report de livraison de plusieurs A380

La compagnie aérienne de Dubaï, Emirates, discute avec Airbus d'un report de livraison de plusieurs gros porteurs A380, a-t-on appris jeudi de source proche du dossier au sein de l'avionneur européen.

"Emirates pourrait retarder des livraisons sur plusieurs appareils" A380, a déclaré cette source à l'AFP sous le couvert de l'anonymat. "Ils sont en discussion (sur un rééchelonnement)", a-t-elle précisé.

Emirates --le plus gros client de l'A380 avec 58 commandes-- "commence à afficher pour la première fois des difficultés, alors qu'on avait toujours tablé sur ce type de compagnies comme de gros clients solides", a commenté cette source.

"Nous avons eu une réunion de routine avec Airbus pour discuter des livraisons d'avions à venir", a de son côté déclaré une porte-parole d'Emirates.

"Comme toutes les compagnies aériennes, Emirates continue d'évaluer toutes les options pour sa flotte et la desserte de ses lignes", a-t-elle poursuivi.

Pour sa part, Airbus ne fait "pas de commentaire sur les discussions avec ses clients", a indiqué à l'AFP une porte-parole de l'avionneur. "Nous avons des discussions continues avec nos clients mais cela est confidentiel", selon elle.

http://www.boursorama.com/infos/actualites/detail_actu_marches.phtml?num=119990479efd428607c7a995b69e9835

http://www.aero.de/Emirates_erhaelt_2009_lediglich_fuenf_Airbus_A380_8145.htm

Emirates recevra que 5 des 7 A380 commandé en 2009.
Ce retard est du en parti à la complexité des equipements qu'emirates embarquent à bord.

Réception du premier 777F de Emirates... par Dubaï DAE.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/03/29/324498/picture-dubais-dae-takes-delivery-of-first-emirates-777-freighter.html

La commande avait été passée par Emirates, mais c'est DAE Capital qui a finalement repris la commande (8 B777F mais aussi 10 B747-8F) l'année dernière afin de louer les appareils à Emirates (sales lease-back).

Merci Macintosh !

Pour EK :
Redéploiement en vue pour l'A380 sur Toronto et Bangkok...

De mémoire pour les raisons suivantes :

1) baisses de capacité sur NY, mais nécessité de garder les fréquences -> remplacement A380 par B777
2) limitation des droits d'accès d'EK au canada -> maximisation des capacités par fréquence d'où l'arrivée de l'A380
3) Pour Bangkok ? un peu savon sur la planche de Thai qui va bientot recevoir ses A380 ? (Pur DOP de ma part sur ce coût...).

Bonne soirée

Bonjour,

Le cinquième A 380 d'EK livré.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4393941/

Combien en tout depuis le début de l'année ? un, deux...?

Un seul je crois. Il me semble aussi que c'est le premier toutes compagnies confondues.

Par contre 3 devraient être livrés en Mai :
Quantas N° 4
SIA N° 7 et 8

LE MSN 17 a bien été livré Samedi à Emirates.

Je met ce post ici, à defaut de le poser dans " Livraisons "

Emirates honorera ses perceptions de Boeing 777 jusqu’en avril 2010.

Ensuite le calendrier serait discuté. En aout, EK en aura…78 ! et le total final est actuellement plus de 100 ! Le credit crunch passe aussi par là....

Sur Gulf News, avec une bonne remarque de M. Al Shams, manager de la flotte d’EK

La livraison d’un tel avion doit être accompagnée de son paiement total.

Seattle: Emirates will slow the delivery of new Boeing 777 aircraft next year, Gulf News has learnt.

Speaking a day before the delivery of the airline's 75th Boeing 777, Abdullah Al Shams, manager of the Emirates Boeing fleet acceptance team at the Everet factory near Seattle, said that from 2010 deliveries would be delayed by a few months.

"We do have deliveries until April 2010 and then we have a slowdown on the deliveries for the following year," Al Shams said.

"The slowdown in deliveries is related to the credit crunch and with the airline business today we do have a little bit of a slowdown on the different aspects of the business."

The delivery of an aircraft such as the 777 must be accompanied by full payment for it, explained Al Shams

"This plane is going to be paid off tomorrow," he said. "It's going to be delivered tomorrow morning. We're going to take off within four hours of the payoff."

Aircraft manufacturers such as Boeing are facing an increase in cancellations of orders for new airplanes. Boeing's report of its first quarter results showed a 50 per cent decline in profit, due primarily to the slowdown in new orders.

As a result, the company is consulting with customers on revised payment options and arrangements, said Boeing officials in Seattle.

The list price for a Boeing 777 ranges from about $250 million (Dh920 million) to $275 million, but Shams declined to comment on whether Emirates has been granted any discount on current orders, which those involved say will bring the fleet to over 100.

Emirates however, has not cancelled any orders, stressed Al Shams, as some other airlines have done.

"At this moment our figures and our delivery are still there, nothing has been cancelled," he said. "All the airlines in general have deferred their delivery timetables."

The airline plans to have a full fleet of between 106 and 108 777s, he added, and despite delays they are on their way to achieving that.

"We will be hitting a milestone in the aviation of 777s in August," Al Shams said.

"We are going to be the largest in the market after Singapore Airlines."

In August Emirates will receive its 78th Boeing 777.

"Unless someone comes along and buys more, but with today's economic situation and the crunch I believe we will be holding that position for a while."

Despite the delays in aircraft deliveries, Shams remains upbeat about Emirates' prospects in a region where the industry is still growing. "We were affected too [by the global recession] but we are still holding our position and we are providing the same service around the world," he said. "We are filling seats."

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10309601.html

Chute des profits ( ???) de 72 ou 80% pour EK en 2008, mais résultat encore positif. Mais pas trop d'optimisme, les plans restent inchangés.

Flight et Aérocontact :

" Emirates says the figures reflect the impact of record fuel prices in the first six months of the year as well as the economic climate. Fuel costs accounted for 36% of the carrier's operating expenditure.

"Under the circumstances this is a satisfactory result," says Emirates Group chief Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum.

Emirates Group says it cash balance stayed "healthy" at Dhs8.7 billion, although this figure was
down from Dhs14 billion as a result of aircraft funding, cabin retrofits and new construction projects.

"No-one could have predicted the scale of the worldwide recession which is now impacting every country," says Al-Maktoum.

"As we move into the new financial year, the outlook is not improving. Although fuel prices are
dropping, demand for business- and first-class traffic is still weak in many markets."
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/05/21/326828/emirates-airline-full-year-profit-falls-80.html
http://www.aerocontact.com/actualite_aeronautique_spatiale/ac-emirates---chute-de-72-du-benefice-net-annuel~08127.html

Merci, Toucan !

Pas contents, les Responsables d'Emirates ! Fâchés avec le Canada !

Lien :
http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1244073073.html
Emirates Slams "Ludicrous" Canadian RestrictionsJune 3, 2009

Dubai airline Emirates on Wednesday slammed "ludicrous" Canadian restrictions that limit the largest Arab carrier to just three weekly flights to the entire country.

Grosse colère !

Transport Canada says that if the airline were allowed any more flights, it would hurt national carrier Air Canada and its international partners. Emirates currently flies only to Toronto.

Protectionnisme ! On a déjà vu ça !

"The notion that a few extra flights a week to a destination that the national carrier doesn't even choose to serve will have any type of impact on their bottom line is clearly ludicrous," said Emirates President Tim Clark, calling the limits "protectionism of the worst kind".

Réaction à laquelle il fallait s'attendre !

Clark told the Economic Club of Canada that boosting Emirates flights would increase tourism and trade at a time of economic crisis.
"Opportunities are being missed simply because the transport options are not there," said Clark, saying load factors on the three flights were around 95 percent.

Il convient d'être honnête & objectif ! Tim CLARK / Emirates a raison !

He said the airline would also like to fly to Calgary and Vancouver.
Emirates drew headlines on Monday when the airline's 486-seat Airbus A380 super-jumbo made its maiden scheduled flight to Toronto's Pearson Airport from Dubai.

(Reuters)

La décision des Autorités canadiennes semble hautement questionnable & contestable !
Réactions ?

Emitates Abandonnerait les douches dans ses 380 !!!
. Elles ne sont pas assez utilisées,
. Elles ont demandé de deplacer la zone de repos ce qui gêne les pilotes,

et moi je dis..... economie de poids et meilleure utlisation de l'avion

Jeannot a écrit:Emitates Abandonnerait les douches dans ses 380 !!!
. Elles ne sont pas assez utilisées,
. Elles ont demandé de deplacer la zone de repos ce qui gêne les pilotes,

et moi je dis..... economie de poids et meilleure utlisation de l'avion

Oui, Jeannot ! On revient à des réalités un peu plus "basiques" !

Bonsoir,

Donc,
1 avions, 2 ponts, deux possibilités

1) Le luxe, les douches, la first class superlative...

Ou

2) Une densité normale, une grosse capacité...

Pour l'instant qui a une configuration aussi dense que le configuration standard Airbus ?

Bonne soirée

Prévision de charges pour les A 380 d' EK sur le Canada et la Thailande. Sur E Travelblackboard :

Monday, 8 June 2009

Emirates is expecting to achieve high load factors on its Airbus A380 operated Bangkok and Toronto routes.

"In the first few months of flying the A380 on Bangkok route, we expect the load factors to be more than 70 per cent," an Emirates spokesperson told Emirates Business on Monday

Nigel Page, Emirates' Senior Vice-President Commerical Operations Africa and the Americas, said: "Our loads on Toronto are looking very healthy. We anticipate bookings in the 80-90 per cent range for the first part of the summer."

The airline's first A380 flight to Toronto, meanwhile, achieved about a 94 per cent seat factor, according the spokesperson.

Emirates, which recently pulled out the superjumbos from its New York route, due to falling capacity, in order to redeploy them on Bangkok and Toronto routes, will fly the A380 daily to Bangkok and thrice weekly to Toronto.

"The aircraft with its large capacity and excellent operating economies is a pillar of growth, for the airline and the destination.
“In Thailand, the introduction of the super jumbo will support the local government's
multi-million dollar promotional drive to boost tourism arrivals from the high-yield Middle Eastern countries" said, Tim Clark, President, Emirates Airline.

He added: "At the same time the higher-capacity A380 will help address the strong demand for passenger and cargo services on the Dubai-Toronto route, which is currently restricted by the bi-lateral agreement to three flights per week."

Industry analysts, meanwhile, believe that the introduction of the A380 aircraft to Bangkok could help boost tourism in Thailand. Until recently, tourism in Thailand has been marred by political unrest with some Bangkok hotels reporting a recent 30 percent decline in occupancy rates, with estimates of tourist revenue losses of $500 million (Dh1.8 billion). Chaisak Angkasuwan, Deputy Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Transport, Thailand, described Emirates’ A380 as a positive development for Thailand’s tourism industry.


"Our marketing campaigns focus on promoting Thailand as an ideal holiday destination in the Middle East. Travellers from this region make multiple
visits to Thailand, staying on an average nine days and spending about $500m annually. We welcome the opportunity to partner with Emirates to grow the tourism potential."

Despite the current economic climate, the Middle East continues to deliver year-on-year growth of 5.7 per cent.

Tourist arrivals from the UAE alone rose by 99.46 per cent for January 2009 compared to the same period last year, Emirates said.

"With air travel due to triple in the next 18 years, larger aircraft such as the A380 are key to Emirates' plans to increasing passenger demand," said Clark.
http://www.etravelblackboard.us/showarticle.asp?id=89341

Merci, Mizeke !

Tim CLARK a surement raison dans sa vision !

Lui et Emirates voudraient voir la mise en chanter de l'A380-900 "stretch" !

Bonjour

Quelques nouvelles d'EK et de sa réflexion sur sa flotte

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=17970

Emirates reconsidering A330 for off-peak operations
Thursday September 24, 2009
Emirates may be in the market for more aircraft at November's Dubai Airshow and is revisiting the prospect of operating up to 30 A330s during off-peak periods, President Tim Clark hinted when speaking to ATWOnline yesterday.

EK signed a letter of intent for 30 A330s in July, 2008 when it took delivery of its first A380, but the order was never confirmed and eventually lapsed as fuel prices soared and the economic downturn took hold (ATWOnline, July 29, 2008).

"We are revisiting the off-peak situation," Clark told this website. He sees a potential need for service between the four major peaks at Dubai to new secondary cities, where connection times through DXB are not as critical and could reach 3-4 hr. instead of 90 min. They would not be routes targeted to business travelers.

He noted that now is a "great time to buy" aircraft. But he poured cold water on a possible 747-8I order, saying the A380 is generating such high loads that the Boeing offering is "no longer an option." Boeing has attempted to interest EK in the 747-8I for a number of years, but range and interior configuration issues have been stumbling blocks (ATWOnline, Aug. 4, 2008). The airline has ordered 10 747-8Fs with 10 options.

EK avait signé une LOI sur de A330 en même temps que la livraison de son premier A380.
Actuellement, pendant les 4 périodes de pointes EK assure des correspondances à 90 min vers son réseau principal (clientèle d'affaire)

EK pense à densifier un réseau secondaire, moins centré sur la clientèle d'affaire, pour lequel des temps de correspondancede 3-4 h sont acceptables, et permettent d'opérer hors des périodes de pic.
Pour cette desserte, EK pense à l'A330 (quelle version)

Par ailleurs, les coef de remplissage des A380 sont très élévés et font dire à EK que le 747-8I n'est plus une option (peut-on traduire par le fait qu'il a une capacité trop restreinte au final ?)

Bonne journée

Bonjour,

Un autre angle d'attaque, une autre pièce du puzzle

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/09/24/332717/emirates-ponders-resurrection-of-stalled-airbus-widebody.html

DATE:24/09/09
SOURCE:Flight InternationalEmirates ponders resurrection of stalled Airbus widebody order
By Max Kingsley-Jones

Emirates is evaluating whether to revive a stalled deal announced last year for up to 60 Airbus widebodies, including 30 A350 XWBs.

At the delivery ceremony for its first A380 in Hamburg in July 2008, the Dubai carrier signed a letter of intent for 30 A330-300s for delivery from 2012, as well as 30 more A350-1000s. But the deal was put on the backburner after the global downturn, says the airline's president, Tim Clark. "By the time it came to consummating the deal, the bottom had fallen out of the market, so we didn't."

Clark says he considers the planned order "alive and well, and very, very topical at this moment", but thinks it is unlikely to be revived in time to confirm at November's Dubai air show.



Airbus


Emirates continues to forge ahead with new widebody deliveries - it is taking 22 A380s and 777s during its current financial year, which began on 1 April 2009 - and Clark says the passenger fleet will number about 145 aircraft by next summer.

However, from September next year, the airline will start phasing out up to 58 of its older aircraft, including 29 A330-200s, eight A340-300s and 21 777-200ER/300s.

With the first of 70 firmly ordered A350s (50 -900s and 20 -1000s) due to arrive in 2014, Clark says the composition of that deal - and the stalled plan for 30 more -1000s - is being re-evaluated. "I'm not sure the ratio we have is right - we want to go for more -1000s," he says.

Clark says Emirates' future fleet composition plan is being driven by the fact there has been a major rethink on the expansion strategy for Dubai's current international airport, following the decision to push back development of the all-new hub at Jebel Ali. "We're looking at what one can do here to maximise Dubai International," he adds. "One thing is to make the aircraft bigger."

La LOI initiale portait sur 30 A330 et 30 A350-1000...

EK va sortir de sa flotte 29 A330-200s, 8 A340-300s et 21 777-200ER/300s à partir de septembre 2010.

Les A350 n'arrivent pas avant 2014

En complément, et dans la lignée de l'article précédent, EK doit se concentrer sur son hub actuel, le développement du hub de Jebel-Ali étant repoussé. D'où la nécessité
1) d'avions les plus gros possibles au départ de ce hub (cause saturation des créneaux) -> A380 (et pas 747-8i trop petit), A350 version 1000 (la fameuse !)
2) de réorganiser son réseau "secondaire" d'où les A330 livrables plus rapidement

Qu'en pensez vous?

Bonne journée

Bonsoir Poncho,

Merci pour les infos. Excellentes nouvelles si cela est confirmé. En particulier, pour l'A350-1000, qui verrait ses commandes fermes passer à 105, et ce 6 ans avant entrée en service (le 350-1000 a toujours son EIS en 2015, mais Emirates aura peut être ses premiers -900 en 2014, si tout va bien, ce que nous espérons).

Bonjour

Où l'on reparle d'EK

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/10/01/332909/emirates-prepares-for-higher-density-a380-rethinks-600-seat.html

Emirates prepares for higher density A380, rethinks 600-seat version
By Max Kingsley-Jones

Emirates is due to receive its first higher-density configured Airbus A380 in November. The aircraft will fly on shorter routes from Dubai to destinations such as London. Meanwhile, earlier plans for a version equipped with more than 600 seats may be revived.

Emirates, which has five A380s in service and will introduce 10 more through to the summer of next year, is still suffering "niggling delays from Toulouse", says the airline's president Tim Clark.

"Our next A380, which arrives in November, will be MSN007, one of the flight-test aircraft," he says. "This will be the first equipped with 517 seats."



Max Kingsley-Jones/Flight International


The airline's first five A380s have a three-class, 489-seat layout, but the next batch will be 517-seaters. The latter version does not include the crew rest compartment on the main deck as it will be flown on sectors of less than 12h, and the freed space provides room for another 28 economy seats.

Meanwhile, Clark says that the plan for a third, higher- density A380 configuration with "roughly 620 seats" in a two-class layout for use on shorter sectors to the Indian subcontinent, has been put on ice. This configuration "was struck out, but now I'm revisiting it", he says.

Emirates is taking two of the five flight-test A380s: MSN007 - which was originally a Rolls-Royce Trent 900-powered version and has been re-engined to Emirates specification with Engine Alliance GP7200s - and MSN009, which was the first GP7200-powered version to fly.

Rien de transcendal

Juste rappel que le flotte EK comporte deux variantes :

489 places avec compartiment de repos pour l'équipage
517 places sans le compartiment (vol de moins de 12h).
620 places, deux classes, éventuellement si nécessaire. Variante ayant précédemment été écartée mais qui revient sur le tapis

Autre fait rappelé : EK prend livraison de pas moins de 10 avions d'ici à l'été prochain

Bonne journée

Bonjour !

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/10/08/333229/emirates-rules-out-747-8i-but-very-keen-on-777-developments.html

Emirates rules out 747-8I, but 'very keen' on 777 developments
By Max Kingsley-Jones

Emirates Airline has ruled out ordering the Boeing 747-8I passenger variant as it focuses on building its fleet of Airbus A380s. However, it is "very keen" to hear Boeing's plans to develop the 777.

"With the A380 as it is today, and as popular as it is today, why would you go back to the 747?" says Emirates Airline president Tim Clark.

The Dubai carrier had been pushing Boeing to develop a version of the 747-8I with the range capability to operate year-round services between its base and Los Angeles with an economic payload of around 370 passengers.

In parallel with Airbus's A380 weight reduction effort, Emirates has been working on its own savings says Clark. "On our own we've already taken out about 2.2t of operator items." This was partly due to a reduction in the potable water carried for the two on-board showers.

Through Airbus's effort, Clark believes that "by 2012 [deliveries] the manufacturer's empty weight of the A380 will be a minimum of 2t lighter on top of our 2.2t". However, he thinks the A380 will "always be challenged" to serve Los Angeles from Dubai.

The airline operates a 266-seat 777-200LR on the Dubai-Los Angeles service, and while Clark rules out the larger -300ER being capable of serving the route with an economic payload, he is awaiting news about the Boeing's plans to develop or replace the 777.

"Boeing knows we're very keen," says Clark, who expects to hold a meeting with the airframer "soon" to discuss ideas that could lead to an -300ER-sized aircraft capable of operating the Los Angeles route. "Even if they give us 8-10% [performance gains] by modifying the current 777, then we've got a chance getting that to Los Angeles," he says.

Tel que dit :

Pas de 747-8I pour Emirates. La route de dimensionnement étant DUB-LAX a/r toute saison avec 370 pax.
L'A380 même après la chasse au poids d'EK et les amélioration d'airbus pour 2012 semble également être juste.
Le 777-200LR le fait avec 266 Pax
EK intéressant par un développement du 777-300ER permettant de faire DUB-LAX lui aussi avec une charge marchande viable

Bonne journée

Bonsoir

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091111-705956.html

UPDATE: Dubai Emirates A380 '10 Deliveries Delayed By Mos-Chmn

DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones)--Dubai-based Emirates Airline Wednesday said some of its double-decker Airbus A380 planes for delivery in 2010 will be delayed and that it may take over aircraft orders from rival carriers as it starts to emerge from the effects of the financial crisis.

"We've taken a bit of a delay on deliveries but not in years," Emirates Airline Chairman Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed ...

Le reste j'ai pas j'suis pas abonné

Quelques livraisons d'A380 reportée en 2010, mais :

- EK prêt à prendre la place d'autres pour des livraisons si la reprise arrive


EK a par ailleurs indiqué être intéressé par d'autres A380... C.f. lien d'Artway en allemand.

Bonne soirée

Bonjour en complément

Emirates President Tim Clark elaborated on the A380 delays mentioned Wednesday by Chairman Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum, telling the DPA news agency that three aircraft scheduled to arrive in November and December now will be delivered in December and January. At the end of 2010 EK will operate 15 A380s instead of the planned 20 and it expects to take 11-12 aircraft in both 2012 and 2013. Delivery of its order for 58 should be finished by 2017. Clark also said EK is evaluating converting options on additional planes in order to take advantage of newly open delivery positions and that its Dubai-Incheon A380 service will begin Dec. 14.

http://www.atwonline.com/news/other.html?issueDate=11%2F13%2F2009

A noter : des nouveaux créneaux de livraison sont dispo

Origine ?
Reports ?
Cadences finalement conformes aux espérences ?
Ouverture de créneaux au délà des 200 premiers appareils livrés ?

Tim Clark confirme son intérêt pour d'autres A380

Pour mémoire aujourd'hui des analystes d'Exane BNP Paribas ont fait l'analyse d'une forte surcapacité au moyen orient à moyen terme...

Bonne journée

Bonsoir

Tim Clark s'exprime sur les alliances

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/15/334947/emirates-clark-outlines-concerns-over-alliance-power.html

Emirates' Clark outlines concerns over alliance power
By David Kaminski-Morrow

Emirates Airline president Tim Clark has expressed strong concern over the increasing power of airline alliances, and insists that membership would stem the Dubai-based carrier's development.

Addressing the European Aviation Club in Brussels on 12 November, Clark highlighted the drive towards consolidation and suggested that the issue of airline competition risked becoming a "forgotten story" of the economic recession.

"Our fear is that aviation's economic recovery in the coming years will see a handful of dominant alliances able to fundamentally alter the competitive landscape in many markets for consumers and unaligned airlines," he says.

"Emirates is big enough now to look after itself but we strongly believe protecting the interests of consumers requires governments and regulators to resist opportunistic and self-interested calls from some in our industry to bend fair competitive norms and structures.

"It is a difficult operating environment for all airlines but certain approvals for consolidation or the granting of immunities for alliances - which otherwise would be viewed with significant scepticism - must be challenged."

He underscores Emirates' resistance to alliance membership, saying that this would become an "artificial brake" on the carrier's business plans, and views 'white spots' lacking alliance coverage as "important drivers for competition and consumer choice".

While consolidation can be justified in some cases, and the failure of financially-unviable carriers is necessary, Clark says that the combination, when taken alongside alliance power, "concerns Emirates".

Clark is particularly irked about the influence of Star Alliance. He cites examples where authorities in Canada and Germany appear to have acted to defend Star carriers against Emirates - and ridicules suggestions that such competition could damage the alliance.

"Hurt Star Alliance?" he says. "How do you hurt a 25-member mega-alliance? And where is the consumer's voice in such a statement?"

While the three major alliances have already established a firm presence, and are succeeding in gaining anti-trust immunity, Clark fears that powerful airline groups will continue to cite exceptional circumstances in order to seek "dispensation to dominate more markets".

He insists that competition regulators must ensure that a "balance is struck" between consolidation, the clean-out of unviable carriers, and "creation of 21st century monopolies".

Crainte que les alliances puissent altérer les règles de la concurrence et biaiser les règles de l'offre et de la demande.

Pour EK, Tim Clark justifie son indépendance par rapport à ces alliances, en expliquant qu'une adhésion serait un frein au développement d'EK.

Tim Clark vise en particulier Star Alliance qui bénéficierait de la clémence des autorités, notamment au canada (se rappeler de l'épisode qui a conduit les A380 dEK à Toronto) et l'allemagne.

Une opinion étonnante, éclairante.

3 alliances...

En France on voit ce qu'est la concurrence avec 3 opérateurs téléphonique : symbolique

Bonne soirée