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    Message par alain57 Dim 26 Avr 2009 - 10:43

    E-2D Hawkeye: The Navy’s New AWACS

    http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/e-2d-hawkeye-the-navys-new-awacs-03443/#program

    Northrop Grumman’s E-2C Hawkeye serves as the US Navy and French Navy’s carrier-capable “mini-AWACS” aircraft. Its primary role is advance warning of incoming aerial threats; ship-based radars are far larger and more powerful, but cannot scan below the angle of the horizon. Secondary roles include strike command and control, land and maritime surveillance, search and rescue, communications relay, and even civil air traffic control during emergencies.
    E-2C Hawkeyes began replacing previous Hawkeye versions in 1973; they also fly from land bases in the militaries of Egypt, Japan, Mexico, Singapore, and Taiwan; and are flown by the US Naval Reserve in a drug interdiction role. Over 200 Hawkeyes have been produced.
    The $17.5 billion E-2D Advanced Hawkeye program aims to build 75 new aircraft with significant radar, engine, and electronics upgrades in order to deal with a world of stealthier cruise missiles, saturation attacks, and a growing need for ground surveillance as well as aerial scans. It looks a lot like the last generation E-2C Hawkeye 2000 upgrade on the outside – but inside, and even outside to some extent, it’s a whole new aircraft.
    DID’s FOCUS articles offer in-depth, updated looks at significant military programs of record. This DID FOCUS Article covers the E-2D program, from the new platform and its capabilities to the budgets, contracts, and companies making it all fly. The latest news includes details concerning the program’s FY 2009 budget cuts, the March 2008 testing issue that prompted them and subsequent events, and Northrop Grumman’s lobbying effort to have the cuts reversed.
    Meanwhile, the GAO has issued a generally favorable report, and advance materials for the first 2 production planes are on order…
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    Message par alain57 Mar 26 Mai 2009 - 12:32

    article long, en anglais (sorry) mais très intéressant.....avec images...

    The E-2D and Maritime Security

    http://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf

    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/7632/
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    Message par alain57 Jeu 11 Juin 2009 - 22:22

    Northrop Grumman'sE-2D E-2D Hawkeye Begins Next Phase of Flight Testing

    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/7998/
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    Message par alain57 Mar 16 Juin 2009 - 9:08

    Un contrat de 432 millions de dollars pour l'E-2D Advanced
    Hawkeye (pour les photos, voir sous le lien)

    http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=110527

    Le groupe américain Northrop Grumman a annoncé, hier, la notification d'un nouveau contrat de 432 millions de dollars pour le programme de l'E-2D Advanced Hawkeye. Il s'ajoute à un premier marché de 1.9 milliard de dollars, remporté en 2003 et comprenant notamment les études et le développement du nouvel avion de guet aérien embarqué de l'US Navy.
    Vingt-deux mois après son premier vol à St. Augustine (Floride), l'E-2D Advanced Hawkeye vient de débuter une nouvelle étape de tests en vue de sa mise en service, prévue en 2011. Il s'agit, cette fois, de vérifier la compatibilité et l'intégration de l'appareil dans une mise en oeuvre à partir d'un porte-avions. Développé par Northrop Grumman, l'E-2 D se substituera aux E-2 C actuellement en service dans l'US Navy. Plus performant
    que son prédécesseur, il sera notamment doté d'un nouveau radar APY-9. En tout, 75 avions doivent être commandés. Trois sont actuellement en cours d'assemblage à l'usine Northrop Grumman de St. Augustine.


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    Message par Invité Lun 22 Juin 2009 - 12:29

    La dernière version du Hawkeye de surveillance de Grumman, le E2-D Advanced Hawkeye

    a achevé des essais à Patuxent River. Les changements importants concernent l'électronique embarqué, capteurs et le radar sous radôme.

    Aviation Week

    Northrop Grumman’s E-2D aircraft, the successor to the E-2 surveillance plane, has reached Milestone C certification and been awarded a fixed-price, incentive-free contract from the
    U.S. Navy for $432 million.

    The award comes on the heels of the program announcing a breach of Nunn-McCurdy cost-growth caps. Responding to questions from reporters here about the Navy’s confidence in Northrop Grumman after the program’s Nunn-McCurdy breech, Northrop’s Jerry Spruill said
    that “the signing of the ADM, the execution of the Milestone C, the transition into LRIP, from the company’s perspective, is [evidence of] the confidence that the Navy is putting in us to execute within those cost constraints to get those costs under control.”

    The contract covers two low-rate initial production (LRIP) Lot 1 aircraft, as well as two Lot 2 aircraft, and is a follow-on to the $1.9 billion E-2D Advanced Hawkeye System Development & Design contract awarded in 2003.

    The Navy will receive two aircraft each in fiscal 2009-’10, with the program of record indicating that the Navy will purchase 75 aircraft in total.

    Marcia Hart-Wise, a Navy public affairs officer, said that the changes after the Nunn-McCurdy breach “rebaselines the program,” and that the Navy is “very confident” that the issues are now being dealt with.

    In March, congressional auditors reported that while the core technology appeared to have matured, programs delays were certain. Program officials told them initial operating capability would slip one-to-two years and there would be a 20 percent jump in unit cost due to recent budget cuts. The cuts were expected to trim off one of the three aircraft to be purchased in each of the first two low-rate initial production lots, in turn cutting the aircraft available to perform pilot and maintenance training ahead of first deployment.

    --Those setbacks further came on top of a 4-6 month delay from early flight testing, when the program experienced problems with high-power circulators, hydraulic lines, antenna power amplifier modules and inclement weather, according to the Government Accountability Office’s latest annual review of major defense programs.

    --As for the platform itself, Spruill said that “the entirety of the sensors and communications have changed” from the E-2C to the E-2D, and John Beaulieu, E2/C2 business development manager, remarked that the radar on the planes has been “outperforming specifications” during test flights.

    During testing of the two prototypes, the aircraft have flown 1,000 hours during 300 flights, and the company and the Navy are planning a first arrested landing on an aircraft carrier some time late this year.
    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/E2D06199.xml&headline=Navy%20Awards%20E-2D%20LRIP%20&channel=defense
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    Message par alain57 Jeu 9 Juil 2009 - 8:58

    Northrop Grumman's Second E-2D Advanced Hawkeye Makes Next Phase in Carrier
    Suitability Testing

    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/8537/

    05:42 GMT, July 9, 2009 BETHPAGE, N.Y. | Northrop Grumman Corporation's (NYSE:NOC) second E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, known as Delta Two, has transitioned to Naval Air Station Patuxent River, in Maryland, as part of the carrier suitability phase of testing, in preparation for Initial Operational Test and Evaluation. The first E-2D System Development and Design (SDD) aircraft, Delta One, transitioned to Pax River on
    May 30 and testing began shortly thereafter, led by the U.S. Navy's Air Test and Evaluation Squadron (VX) 20.

    "The joint Advanced Hawkeye team has been putting the two SDD aircraft through a rigorous flight test program at Northrop Grumman's Manufacturing and Flight Test Center in St. Augustine, Fla.," said Jim
    Culmo, vice president of Airborne Early Warning and Battle Management Command and Control programs for Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems. "This next phase of testing -- carrier suitability -- will be the first opportunity to get the E-2D out on the carrier. We're looking forward to the first Advanced Hawkeye carrier
    landing as it brings us that much closer to delivering this revolutionary weapons system to the warfighter."

    To ensure that aircraft operating on carriers are compatible, all naval aviation assets undergo carrier suitability
    testing prior to joining the fleet. The bulk of the testing involves catapult and arrested landing structural tests as well as the interoperability between the aircraft and the carrier.

    Designed and built for the U.S. Navy, the E-2D will utilize its newly developed AN/APY-9 Electronic Scan Array (ESA) radar, Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) system, Electronic Support Measures (ESM), and off-board sensors, in concert with surface combatants equipped with the Aegis combat system to detect, track, and defeat cruise missile threats at extended ranges. The E-2D Advanced Hawkeye will also provide
    unparalleled maritime domain awareness including airspace control for manned and unmanned assets, monitoring of surface movements, civil support, and command and control of tactical forces. The E-2D's new AN/APY-9 radar, designed and built by a radar team led by Lockheed Martin, represents a two-generational leap in radar technology. "The AN/APY-9 can see smaller targets and more of them at a greater
    range than currently fielded radar systems," Culmo added.
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    Message par jullienaline Sam 3 Oct 2009 - 22:51

    Bonsoir à tous,

    Quelques nouvelles de cet appareil.

    Next-Generation E-2D Advanced Hawkeye On-Track for Initial Operational Test and Evaluation in 2011

    With U.S. Navy leadership, federal, state and local government officials, and Northrop Grumman's (NYSE:NOC) employees looking on, the U.S. Navy today took delivery of its 21st, and final production E-2C Hawkeye 2000 aircraft. The delivery event was held at the company's East Coast Aircraft Manufacturing and Flight Test Center, known as the "Home of the Hawkeye."

    Accepting the aircraft on behalf of the U.S. Navy was Rear Adm. Richard O'Hanlon, Commander, Naval Air Force Atlantic. "This is a significant milestone for Northrop Grumman and the U.S. Navy. Over the past 40 years, various models of E-2 Hawkeye have truly served as the eyes of the fleet in its critical role of providing operational commanders airborne early warning and command and control. As threats have evolved, so has the Hawkeye's capability. It is truly an integral part of the U.S. Navy's 'First Line of Defense.'"

    The E-2C Hawkeye 2000 began service with the U.S. Navy in 2005 as a powerful upgrade to the E-2C airborne early warning and control platform, the first carrier-based aircraft designed from the outset for this mission set. Currently, there are more than 100 E-2 Hawkeye aircraft operating worldwide, with almost one-third of those being flown by international customers. With its commercial-off-the-shelf based architecture and network-centric connectivity, the Hawkeye 2000 is an extremely capable multi-mission platform, performing simultaneous air and surface surveillance, strike and intercept control, search and rescue support, and drug interdiction.

    "As we deliver the final E-2C, I am reminded of the strong legacy this aircraft is built on," said Tom Vice, sector vice president and general manager of Northrop Grumman's Aerospace Systems' Battle Management and Engagement Systems Division. "At Northrop Grumman, we have a reputation for being committed to strong program performance and a skilled workforce that is committed to meeting our contractual obligations to our customer. As we deliver the final E-2C, we are preparing to transition to the next generation of force protection -- the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye -- which will provide a two-generational leap forward in new technology."

    Northrop Grumman introduced the sixth generation of the E-2, the Advanced Hawkeye in 2007. With an external appearance similar to the E-2C, the systems of the Advanced Hawkeye have been completely redesigned and the capabilities are vastly expanded. With its newly developed, more powerful AN/APY-9 Electronic Scan Array (ESA) radar, the E-2D will provide the warfighter with the expanded battlespace and situational awareness required for today's and tomorrow's mission.

    At the delivery ceremony, the final E-2C and the first E-2D pilot production aircraft, formed the backdrop for the speakers. Northrop Grumman is producing three pilot production E2-D aircraft which are on-track for delivery in 2010 under a $408 million contract awarded in July 2007. Following successful completion of a Milestone C review, a $432 million contract was awarded in June for Low-Rate Initial Production. The Navy's Program of Record is for 75 total aircraft.

    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/9992/

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    Message par jullienaline Sam 17 Oct 2009 - 14:28

    Bonjour à tous,

    Les tests de catapultage du E-2D ont été passé avec succès.

    Northrop Grumman's E-2D Advanced Hawkeye Completes First Catapult Launch Tests

    In preparation for its Initial Operational Test and Evaluation (IOT&E), Northrop Grumman's (NYSE:NOC) first E-2D Advanced Hawkeye test aircraft, known as Delta One, has successfully completed its first land-based catapult launch tests - a required phase of testing prior to fleet introduction. Both E-2D System Development and Demonstration (SDD) aircraft, Delta One and Delta Two, are currently undergoing shore-based carrier suitability testing at Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Md., conducted by the U.S. Navy's Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 20 (VX-20).

    "Since transitioning to NAS Pax River from our East Coast Aircraft Manufacturing and Flight Test Center in St. Augustine, Fla., earlier this year, both E-2D SDD aircraft have been performing well," said Jim Culmo, Northrop Grumman vice president of Airborne Early Warning and Battle Management Command and Control Programs. "This latest milestone brings us that much closer to delivering this state-of-the-art airborne early warning capability to the U.S. Navy and demonstrates the tireless commitment and dedication of the joint Advanced Hawkeye team to successfully meeting, or exceeding, all program milestones."

    Prior to joining the carrier fleet, all naval aviation aircraft undergo carrier suitability testing. The bulk of this testing involves catapult and arrested landing structural tests, as well as the interoperability between the aircraft and the carrier.

    In the cockpit for the first E-2D Advanced Hawkeye catapult test were Northrop Grumman Flight Test Pilot Les Ryan, and Dan Carrigg, Wyle flight test pilot. "There is nothing more exhilarating than being 'shot' off the deck of a carrier at more than 100 miles per hour," said Ryan. "This phase of testing is critical to ensure that the aircraft can structurally handle the rigors of carrier operations. We completed multiple launches and, during each one, Delta One performed as expected -- with no noted anomalies."
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    http://www.defpro.com/news/details/10624/

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 18 Nov 2009 - 9:20

    Bonjour à tous

    http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/navy-puts-next-gen-hawkeye-through-its-paces-at-patuxent/



    Navy puts next-gen Hawkeye through its paces at Patuxent
    By: David Donald

    November 17, 2009
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    Northrop Grumman’s E-2D Advanced Hawkeye is currently undergoing carrier compatibility tests at the U.S. Navy’s Patuxent River dummy-deck facility in Maryland before its first venture to sea. Initial carrier trials are to begin in the first half of next year, the exact schedule depending on carrier availability. Here at the Dubai Airshow an operational U.S. Navy E-2C Hawkeye 2000 from the U.S.S. Nimitz is on display in the static area.

    The OEM is scheduled to build 75 E-2Ds to completely replace the Navy’s existing E-2C Hawkeye fleet. The last of 205 new-build E-2Cs was handed over at Northrop Grumman’s St. Augustine plant in September. Northrop has completed two developmental test E-2D models, which to date have racked up 1,250 flight hours between them. It is building three pilot production aircraft.

    Flight tests have produced positive results so far, with the aircraft and system exceeding key performance parameters and being well below the threshold for software glitches. One of the developmental test aircraft is focusing on air vehicle tests. As the Delta-version is heavier and more powerful than the Charlie, requalification is required. The second test aircraft is primarily concerned with mission system testing. Its ability to track maneuvering targets has been particularly impressive.

    Milestone C approval was passed in June, which led to the authorization for the construction of two low-rate, initial-production (LRIP) aircraft and the purchase of long-lead items. Three of the pilot-production/LRIP aircraft are to undergo the Navy’s operation/evaluation (opeval) process, scheduled for the first quarter of fiscal year 2012. The remaining airplane is to be delivered in September 2010 to VAW-120, the Navy’s Hawkeye training squadron at Naval Air Station Norfolk, Virginia, to begin the service’s familiarization with the new variant.

    In addition to the aircraft, Northrop Grumman is providing new mission, flight and maintenance training facilities. It has also just broken ground for the facility at Norfolk, and further systems are to be installed at Point Mugu, the California base that serves the Pacific Fleet squadrons. Initial operating capability is planned for 2014, by which time Northrop Grumman hopes to have ramped up to an annual eight-aircraft production rate, albeit with some additional capacity for potential export aircraft.

    Even while the E-2D is being prepared for service, a development roadmap is being planned to coincide with programmed maintenance cycles. The first manifestation of this plan is to be the installation of in-flight refueling probes. Northrop Grumman is under contract to test an IFR probe on an E-2C in 2013, having already confirmed that refueling from behind a Super Hornet tanker poses no problems. The upper fuselage structure of the E-2D is the same as that of the E-2C, so once tests are complete the kit can be migrated to the Delta with no obvious issues.

    Beyond the IFR probe, the Navy is looking to new mission computers and software common to the E-2C and D, and then further exploitation of the capabilities offered by increasingly wideband IP networks.

    Advanced Hawkeye for Export
    While initial development efforts are driven by U.S. Navy needs, the Advanced Hawkeye is being actively marketed around the world. The UAE is currently evaluating the type for its AEW requirement, and was the first nation to be granted export authorization. In the UAE, the Advanced Hawkeye is up against two contenders (the Saab 2000 and Boeing 737) that employ fixed electronically scanned antennas, whereas Hawkeye combines “e-scan” with a rotating array.

    Jim Culmo, Northrop Grumman’s v-p for AEW and battle management C2 programs, cited the principal advantages of the Advanced Hawkeye’s configuration: “We provide complete 360-degree coverage, with no degradation across the whole sweep. Also, we operate in the UHF band, which has very little interference from the weather or atmosphere, and gives better detection of smaller targets.”

    Culmo went on to assert that “the combination of electronic and mechanical scanning blends the strengths of both. Furthermore, the Hawkeye has no compromise in design. The radar is the baseline around which the aircraft is designed, rather than trying to integrate a radar system into a commercial aircraft.”

    India is another potential customer and has also received export authorization, while Northrop Grumman is also pitching the E-2D to existing Hawkeye operators. Many of them operate the E-2 from land bases, and the company has done preliminary design work to add fuel capability to a nonfolding, outer-wing panel so mission endurance can be extended to eight hours.

    While the Delta represents the new generation, there remains significant life in the E-2C, as evidenced by recent upgrades to the Egyptian and Taiwanese aircraft. When deliveries of the E-2D get under way this may release E-2Cs into the resale and upgrade market.


    Les essais en cours

    Les premiers exemplaires de série sortent à cadence réduite.

    NG pointe sur l'avantage du dome de l'EC2D qui permet une couverture complète à 360° contrairement à l'Eyirie et au Wedgetail (enfin c'est eux qui le dise pas moi)

    Bonne journée


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    Message par jullienaline Lun 21 Déc 2009 - 22:30

    Bonsoir à tous,

    Le E-2D poursuit ses essais avec succès.
    Evidemment, pas vraiment de détails sur les performances de détection et de suivi de cibles...

    Northrop Grumman's E-2D Advanced Hawkeye demonstrating continued success

    Northrop Grumman Corporation's Jim Culmo, vice president of Airborne Early Warning & Battle Management Command and Control Programs, said today that the company's E-2D Advanced Hawkeye Program is on track for initial operational test and evaluation in 2011.
    Culmo provided a program overview at the Airborne Early Warning and Battle Management 2009 Conference in Amsterdam.
    "The E-2D System Development and Demonstration (SDD) Program is going very well," said Culmo. "We've successfully completed 94 percent of the SDD Program, and flight tests to date have produced excellent results. We have a strong Advanced Hawkeye Team, dedicated to ensuring that we continue to meet, or exceed, all major program milestones and performance criteria."
    Culmo noted that the company is on-track to deliver three pilot production E-2Ds to the U.S. Navy in 2010 and that manufacturing of the first two Low-Rate Initial Production aircraft is also progressing well.
    "We're exceedingly pleased with where we are in the flight test program," said U.S. Navy Capt. Shane Gahagan, Hawkeye Greyhound program manager. "The AN/APY-9 radar is performing very well and will bring to the fleet a significantly increased ability to operate in a highly cluttered environment while providing critical 360-degree coverage."
    The E-2D was designed to provide the warfighter with the enhanced capabilities required to meet emerging threats and improved mission effectiveness. With its newly developed AN/APY-9 Electronic Scan Array (ESA) radar, Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) system, Electronic Support Measures (ESM), and off-board sensors, in concert with surface combatants equipped with the Aegis combat system, the E-2D will have the capability to detect, track, and defeat cruise missile threats at extended ranges.
    It will also provide unparalleled maritime domain awareness including airspace control for manned and unmanned assets, monitoring of surface movements, civil support, and command and control of tactical forces.
    The combined radar modes work together to provide continuous, 360-degree air and surface scanning capability, allowing flight operators to focus the radar on select areas of interest. "The AN/APY-9 can 'see' smaller targets and more of them at a greater range than currently fielded radar systems," Culmo said. He added that the E-2D's systems, including radar long-range detection, "are exceeding key performance specifications."
    http://www.shephard.co.uk/news/4804/northrop-grumman-s-e-2d-advanced-hawkeye-demonstrating-continued-success/

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    Message par jullienaline Ven 5 Mar 2010 - 23:00

    Bonsoir à tous,

    La production de série se met en place : un contrat pour 4 radars AN/APY-9 devant équiper le E-2D vient d'être signé.

    Grumman E-2 Hawkeye 74eff5fa5cae148fb9433eab5544f1f521ebbd5e_big

    http://www.lockheedmartin.com/news/press_releases/2010/030410_LM_APY-9_html.html

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 20 Déc 2016 - 11:03

    Bonjour,

    La version E2D gagne le ravitaillement en vol

    https://www.aerobuzz.fr/breves-defense/e-2d-hawkeye-ravitaillable-vol/


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    Message par Philidor Mar 20 Déc 2016 - 11:55

    Je ne comprends pas bien l'information précédente. Qui ravitaillerait un Hawkeye en haute mer ? Sur la photo, on voit un Super Hornet  ... Inversion des rôles ?
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 20 Déc 2016 - 12:16

    Jusqu'à présent le E-2 n'était pas ravitaillable en vol


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    Message par Beochien Mar 20 Déc 2016 - 12:43

    Oui et les Super Hornet peuvent emporter des kits de ravitaillement, pour remplir le Hawkeye, qui d'après ce qu'ils disent, ne peut décoller avec le plein complet (Pas si léger, cet oiseau, jusqu'à 26 Tonnes Max) probablement "Stucture, vs Catapulte" !
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    Message par Philidor Mar 20 Déc 2016 - 15:00

    Merci pour les précisions, Beochien !
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    Message par Beochien Mar 20 Déc 2016 - 15:42

    Juste pour rire ...

    A quand un Casa 295 un poil raccourci, avec radôme (C'est fait) et avec des ailes pliante, une queue arrangée, des structures renforcées, pour la catapulte (Et les brins d'arrêt) d'un PA comme le CDG** Razz
    OK, le business plan est peut être limité...  Rolling Eyes

    ** Le CDG, 18 mois planté pour "Révision" et c'est bien trop long !
    Mais bon, juste le temps de préparer un proto de C-275 clown
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 20 Déc 2016 - 21:00

    Part sur le C235 ... ça suffit...


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    Message par Beochien Mar 20 Déc 2016 - 21:32

    Peut être pas assez de HP pour trainer un radôme, et l'exploitation humaine et les ordinateurs de bord  pendant 5-6 heures ??
    Plus l'autodéfense etc ...
    J'y avais pensé !
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 21 Fév 2018 - 18:20

    Bonjour,

    https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2018/february-2018-navy-naval-defense-news/5972-french-navy-to-procure-e-2d-advanced-hawkeyes-for-2026-2028.html

    des E2-D pour la France entre 2026 et 2028


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    Message par Beochien Mer 21 Fév 2018 - 19:54

    Oui ....

    Ça veut dire que le C-295 ou autres de la série ne sont pas pris en compte  Crying or Very sad

    Et il est commenté que le successeur du CDG serait sérieusement dans la boucle  Wink

    Bien loin, tout ça .... vraiment dans les rumeurs !
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 21 Fév 2018 - 23:23

    le C-295 est un bon avion mais encore un avion marin...


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    Message par Beochien Jeu 22 Fév 2018 - 1:44

    Pas encore, mais Airbus M y pense déjà pour les liaisons.
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Jeu 22 Fév 2018 - 9:18

    Ah ah ... tu as des liens ?


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    Message par Beochien Jeu 22 Fév 2018 - 10:44

    Non ... perdu, vu dans les mois précédents, je crois que c'est Airbus qui disait que c'était en étude qq part !
    Je peux avoir rêvé ...

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