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    AIRBUS A400 M


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    Message par Beochien Lun 14 Fév 2011 - 10:49

    J'aimerais te croire Poncho !

    Bien c'est sûr qu'ils les pèsent en sortie de chaîne ... donc ils ont les poids à vide chez Airbus ...
    Mais figé ... tout cela ... hum ! ?
    J'ai bien peur que l'AF et les premiers clients aient accepté et dérogué qq variations ... vers une amélioration progressive bien sûr !
    Bon je suis peut être mauvaise langue, mais tout en ordre dés maintenant, côté poids, je n'y crois pas beaucoup !

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Lun 14 Fév 2011 - 10:53

    Est ce que c'est revenu sur le tapis récemment ?

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    Message par Beochien Lun 14 Fév 2011 - 11:05

    Pas du tout officiellement Poncho !
    C'était Délais, Qty, signatures et déblocage d payements !
    Le dernier Round !

    Mais, si ce n'est pas revenu sur le tapis, c'est pour, moi, plutôt que rien de nouveau est arrivé, les dérives de poids, C/U ont été constatées, et des programmes de weight ripoux installés dans la durée!

    Toujours des tonnes de trop, des améliorations de promises, et des dérogations en échange d'un programme d' allégements progressifs, par phase probablement ...
    Surtout livrer les plus urgents et continuer à alléger dans le temps !
    C'est ce que je soupçonne très fortement !

    C'est pour cela que Airbus n'imprime et ne signe pas beaucoup dans la colonne "Poids"
    Ca ferait trop pleurer les premiers clients à le recevoir !

    Mais ils sont bien obligés de faire leur PUB wwide, ils auront bientôt 13 A400M Allemands, sur les bras et à vendre !

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 18 Fév 2011 - 11:17

    Beochien
    En fait en regardant bien la présentation du 21/09/2010 qui doit être quand même bien à jour on a :

    OEW : 173 300 lbs (78678.2 kg) page 65

    La dernière référence connue, celle reprise par Wiki donnait

    Empty weight : 168654 lb (76500 kg)

    Soit + 4646 ls (+2178.2 kg)

    Après garder en tête que l'OEW peut être variable selon les config... celle de 173 300 correspond de toute manière au mini à une déclinaison tactique de l'avion.

    Si je lis la courbe Payload/Range de la même présentation

    les 37 t partent tjs à 1780 Nm
    les 30 t autour de 2500 Nm
    les 27.5 t d'un Stryker vont à 2750 Nm
    les 25 t vont à 2900 Nm
    les 20 t vont à 3450 Nm

    C'est bien ligne avec les données connues notamment sur Wikip

    Rien de nouveau, sauf un poids OEW
    Y a aussi un MLW (stratégique et tactique)


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 18 Fév 2011 - 11:26

    Je poursuis

    Si on compare avec un avion de taille comparable, genre un A310-200

    A310-200
    OEW: 72 t (cargo) à 81 t (pax)
    MTOW : 142 t

    Sachant que l'A400M est un militaire à presque 79 t il n'est pas si lourd que ça non ? surtout que l'A310-200F n'est qu'à 33 t de charge utile...


    Lu qu'il pourrait y avoir une version allongée de l'A400M (quelles sources???)

    Le fuselage semble être "classique" métallique ce qui doit simplifier les choses
    J'aimerai bien savoir quelle est l'altitude de rétablissement pour la pressurisation de la cabine




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    Message par Beochien Ven 18 Fév 2011 - 11:42

    Merci Poncho !

    De mémoire le projet était dans les +/- 66 Tonnes au départ !
    Ils ont pris 10 Tonnes, et le MTOW à bien suivi !
    Heureusement que les moteurs étaient largement dimensionnés, et l'aile aussi !

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 18 Fév 2011 - 11:46

    Tiens, un petit lien sympa et finalement assez détaillé
    Pas tout jeune (juin 2010)
    http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories627.htm


    Seville. Common, rather than isolated, European defence of its skies and humanitarian missions will be a reality, with the development of the 21st Century tactical and logistical Airlifter, the A400M by Airbus Military.


    The A400M has the capability to fly distances up to 4,700 nm / 8,700 km, at a cruising altitude of up to 37,000 ft, and at a speed of up to Mach 0.72, very similar to that of a jet liner. This gives it the potential for strategic/logistic missions. Flying faster and higher, it can respond more rapidly to crises, because greater distances can be flown in a one crew duty day.

    The new aircraft is hence regarded as much more efficient than its predecessors. Also, as it can fly higher, it can cruise above turbulence, resulting in less fatigue for the crew and passengers or troops alike.

    Addressing a group of international journalists recently during a Trade Media Briefing at Sao Paulo, Seville, Spain, Rafael Nogueras Cebrero, Head of A400M Final Assembly Line and Flight Test Centre, announced that the production of first customer aircraft MSN 7 had been launched and will be on the FAL by the end of 2011. Eight countries, eight operators and 184 aircraft are providing a strong customer base for a smooth start of the production line.

    A400M can perform missions which previously required two - or more - different types of aircraft, and which even then provided an imperfect solution.

    Its fuselage’s external width of 5.64 metres / 18 ft 6 in is equal to that of the A330/A340 wide-body. The inside usable width of four metres / 13ft, height of up to four metres / 13ft, and usable length of nearly 18m / 59ft, allows it to carry numerous items of outsize cargo including, for example, an NH90 or a heavy lift CH-47 Chinook helicopter, or two Stryker infantry carrier vehicles (ICV) for military purposes.

    It can also carry a semi-articulated truck with a 6m / 20ft container, or a rescue boat, or large lifting devices, such as excavators or mobile cranes needed to assist in disaster relief, informed Rafael.

    Furthermore, the A400M is the only airlifter that can fly these items directly to the site of action thanks to its unique landing characteristics. With its 12- wheel main landing gear designed for operations from stone, gravel or sand strips, its efficient absorption of shock-loads into the airframe structure, and its minimised risk of foreign object damage, the A400M is able to land on, and take-off from, short, soft and rough unprepared airstrips meeting the CBR6 standard.

    Once on the ground, the A400M is designed for very rapid and autonomous cargo unloading or loading without any specialized ground support equipment.

    Equipped with on-board winches and a crane, the cargo hold is optimised for single loadmaster operation from a computerised workstation, where the loadmaster can pre-plan loading from a loads data base. So, by minimising the time on the ground, the A400M’s systems also reduce the aircraft’s vulnerability to hostile action.

    Being able to fly at higher altitudes and faster, it can also be configured into a tanker aircraft to refuel military fast jets (fighters) and other large aircraft at speeds of up to 300kt indicated air speed (IAS) at 25,000ft. But because of its low speed performance, it can equally well refuel helicopters at 110kt up to 5,000ft.

    Refuelling can be done either through two wing-pod hoses or through a centre-line fuselage refuelling unit. Its built-in air-toair refuelling capability allows it to be rapidly re-configured to become a tanker. It can therefore be easily adapted to rapidly changing operational scenarios, being able to perform very different types of missions, as needed. The aircraft itself can also be refuelled in flight.

    A400M has been specifically designed for low detectability, low vulnerability and high survivability, giving it excellent self-protection. With clean and minimised infra-red signature engines, highly responsive fly-by-wire flight controls, four independent control computers, comprehensive defensive aids, cockpit armouring and damage tolerant controls, the A400M is hard to find, hard to hit and hard to kill. As for its “down-time”, the A400M is conceived to be what the ccompany says “the most reliable airlifter ever.”

    It needs only 84 days of scheduled downtime maintenance in 12 years, Rafael informed India Strategic. The nations in the project, which is otherwise delayed, include Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Luxemburg, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, and the United Kingdom.

    Meanwhile, the aviation manufacturers of these countries have also started working on the concept of a new military transport under the designation of “Future Large Aircraft” (FLA).

    They involve Aerospatiale in France, Deutsche Aerospace (DASA) in Germany, British Aerospace in the UK, CASA in Spain, the industries of Belgium and Luxemburg which joined forces under the FLABEL grouping, as well as Alenia in Italy, OGMA in Portugal, and the Turkish Aerospace Industry (TAI) in Turkey.

    An initial call for tender was launched by the European Nations in 1998, to which the FLA grouping responded in 1999. After thorough examination of the various options which included other existing products and even co-operation with nonwest- European manufacturers, the FLA proposal was selected by these countries in July 2000. The initial commitment was for 288 aircraft from all the eight countries.

    On 21st December 2001, an initial contract was signed for a total of 197 A400Ms, as the aircraft was to be called from then on, by the European nations, but without Italy which had withdrawn from the launch-nations group. The German order for 73 aircraft was subject to hand-written budget approval, which was eventually obtained at the beginning of 2003, but for only 60 aircraft.

    Meanwhile, Portugal had also withdrawn from the initial group. The final contract for 180 aircraft was signed with OCCAR, representing Belgium, France, Germany, Luxemburg, Spain, Turkey, and the UK on 27th May 2003. This was to be followed by an order for four by Malaysia in December 2005.

    Orders which stand to date are total 184 from 8 countries (Germany 60, France 50, Spain 27 ,UK 25,Turkey 10, Belgium 7 and Luxemburg 1. Malaysia has ordered four of these and is the only Asian client yet).

    The A400M can also very easily be converted into an aerial refuelling tanker. Because all provisions are built into the airframe, it takes under two hours to convert the A400M from an airlifter into a two-point tanker aircraft. Hard points, fuel lines and electric connections are already built into the wings. The two refuelling pods under the wing can provide a fuel flow of up to 1,200 kg / 2,645lb per minute. The centre-line fuselage refuelling unit provides a fuel flow of some 1,800 kg /3,968 lb per minute. Three video cameras can be installed if desired, to monitor the refuelling from the wing pods and the centreline unit.

    The A400M carries up to 64,000 litres /14,078gallons of fuel in its wings and centre wing box. Two additional cargo hold units can also be installed, providing an additional 7,200 litres /1,583 gallons of fuel each.

    The fuel carried in the extra tanks can be of a different nature to the fuel in the main tanks. This enables the A400M to cater for the needs of different types of receiver aircraft. Also, because of its low fuel consumption, the A400M can do a 4-hour mission while off-loading some 35 tonnes /78,400 lb of fuel. Larger aircraft can also be refuelled by the A400M.

    Rafael said that the A400M is the only tanker which can refuel the entire range of military aircraft at their preferred speeds and altitudes. This is because it can fly both at the low speeds and altitudes (105 to 115 kt) typically required to refuel helicopters, as well as at speeds of 280 to 300 kt and altitudes of around 25,000 ft which are typical for fast jets, such as fighters or large aircraft.

    The A400M can accommodate up to 116 troops sitting face to face, alongside the fuselage and backto- back along the centre line of the aircraft. Its wider fuselage which provides more space between the rows, it can carry the same number of fully equipped paratroopers with their chutes and related equipment. They can be dropped in less time over a limited area, allowing them to swiftly regroup and to be quickly operational.

    But above all , the A400M permits two paratroopers to jump simultaneously either through the cargo door or through the two lateral doors. Special forces can also be dropped from altitudes as high as 40,000 ft.

    Another key feature of the A400M is its computerized “fly-by-wire” flight controls already widely used on other civil transport aircraft, starting with the A320. Replacing the conventional cables and pulleys by electrical wires linked to four independent flight control computers which send signals to actuators, not only reduces weight, but also maintenance time. This also gives a much greater precision to the commands. The fly-by-wire controls permit the implementation of “flight envelope protection” which, by preventing the aircraft from stalling, allows the pilot to achieve optimum performance in a critical escape manoeuvre by simply pulling the full stick back. The fly-by-wire system then manages the whole aircraft configuration accordingly, without the pilot having to intervene.

    One of the key elements to ensure the versatility of the A400M was the selection for the aircraft of an allnew, specifically designed three-shaft turboprop engine with eight bladed propellers. The 11,000 shp TP400 developed by EuroProp International (EPI), a consortium comprising Rolls Royce, Snecma, MTU and ITP, is the most powerful turboprop ever built.

    Ed Strongman, the Chief Test Pilot Airbus Military told India Strategic that till 19thMay 2010, the A 400M had undergone 43 test flights and 165 hours of flying. He also said that an initial problem of the brakes had been rectified to achieve perfect landing.

    The aircraft’s flight campaign is progressing well at two Flight Test Centres at Touluse in France and at Seville, said Strongman.


    La capacité en fuel ressort à 64 000 l interne soit 51.2 t à la densité standard utilisée par airbus (0.Cool, un petit plus que ce que l'on retrouve ailleurs (wikip notamment) qui donne 700 kg de moins

    Je cherchais l'info sur le diamètre du fuselage... parce que 4 m de largeur interne c'est en fait la charge cargo... en réalité la largeur interne est plus grande

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/01/21/337440/pictures-uk-tests-load-capacity-of-a400m.html

    Y a des consoles chasse roue


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 22 Fév 2011 - 9:07

    Optimisme d'Airbus

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/21/airbus-a400m-idUKLDE71K0DZ20110221?type=companyNews


    Feb 21 (Reuters) - Airbus (EAD.PA) expects global sales of its A400M military transport plane, a long-delayed project plagued by cost overruns, to reach 400 over the next 30 years, a company official said on Monday.

    Didier Vernet, Airbus's head of market development, said Middle East and North African states were expected to order between 50 and 100 planes.

    "There are prospects for us when the countries phase out the C-130 and C-17 (U.S. military cargo planes made by Lockheed Martin and Boeing)," he told reporters on the sidelines of a defence exhibition in the UAE capital.

    He forecast global demand for military cargo planes to be around 800 over the next 30 years and Airbus's military wing is aiming for half of the market share.

    "There are a lot of old aircraft to replace," Vernet said. "The prospects for the coming 30 years are 400 aircraft."

    The A400M is designed to transport soldiers and heavy equipment to rugged combat zones. But technical problems have pushed the 20 billion-euro ($27 billion) project four years behind schedule and 11 billion euros over budget.

    Last year European government buyers agreed a funding deal to rescue the project. [ID:nLDE6A41R3]

    The seven nations behind the project -- Belgium, Britain, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain and Turkey -- have orders totalling 174 planes.

    Vernet also said Airbus Military has received orders from Middle Eastern states for its A330 MRT in-flight refuelling and transport aircraft.

    He said Saudi Arabia has ordered six planes, the first of which would be delivered in 2012 while the United Arab Emirates has ordered three with the first planned for delivery later this year. ($1=.7302 euros) (Writing by Mahmoud Habboush; Editing by Greg Mahlich)


    400 avions de plus sur 30 ans...

    Au passage le prix afficher pour cette machine reste dans la gamme 120-130 millions d'euros soit 160-180 millions de dollar actuels. L'ordre de grandeur du prix catalogue d'un 767-300F qui a 64 t de de charge utile


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    Message par Beochien Mar 22 Fév 2011 - 9:19

    Bonjour Poncho !

    Les prix, on verra sur l'avenir, F/ des clients ! et des remises discrètes (Ca pourrait faire hurler les premiers clients !)
    Je pense qu'il peut y avoir des différences proches des 20% part de la "Militarisation" spécifique, un peu comme dans les MRTT !
    Entre un A400M, tout nu, à vocation Fret et un A400M, à vocation Op's militaires, en zone dangereuse !
    Et qq tonnes aussi, au passage !
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 9 Mar 2011 - 9:52

    Bonjour à tous
    Une info de la semaine dernière
    l'A400M au banc d'essai fatigue

    Une info intéressante : cellule prévue pour 10 000 cycles.
    Les A320 sont prévus pour 10 fois plus !
    Ce qui peut expliquer la relative légèreté de la cellule par rapport à un A310-200...



    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/03/03/353908/grizzly-hits-easa-test-benchmark.html

    Airbus Military's A400M "Grizzly" has completed sufficient simulated flight-cycle testing on a full-scale airframe to achieve civil type certification of the airlifter by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA).

    The test specimen at Airbus's Dresden plant, known as MSN5001, has undergone 1,665 cycles, about five times the maximum number of flights expected to be recorded annually by each in-service A400M.

    By mid-2012, 25,000 simulated flights will be performed - equating to 2.5 times the A400M´s design-life.

    The test programme is required to simulate flights at least one year ahead of the actual operations performed by the aircraft.



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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Jeu 10 Mar 2011 - 9:22

    Bonjour à tous

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/2011/03/09/airbus-military-green-lights-a400m-industrial-production/

    Airbus Military has approved the start of industrial production of its A400M airlifter, the company announced Wednesday. It plans to assemble the first four production A400Ms in 2012 and then ramp up to 2.5 per month by the end of 2015.

    The company also announced that Cédric Gautier, currently president and chief executive of EADS Sogerma, will take over the A400M program on April 1 from Rafael Tentor.

    “Rafael has led the programme back on track, to first flight and initial Flight Test,” Airbus Military CEO Domingo Ureña said in a news release. “The industrial launch means a turning point. I am convinced that, with all his engineering and above all industrial expertise, Cédric will be the best person to manage this new phase leading to type certification, series production and entry into service.”

    Tentor will become head of Airbus Military aircraft programmes, replacing Javier Matallanos, who will be assigned special projects by Ureña.

    Airbus Military has 174 orders from eight for the A400M. It is scheduled for civil certification this year, with first delivery to the French Air Force in late 2012 or early 2013.

    C'est donc parti pour la série à 2.5 avions par mois. A priori un peu de marge sur le timing de livraison de la première machine à l'armée de l'air

    Le TP400 devrait être certifié EASA sous peu (je scrute...)


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    Message par Beochien Mer 16 Mar 2011 - 20:11

    Bonjour !

    De Guy Norris, sur Aviation Week !

    Un article bien renseigné sur le A400M, et en particulier pour les moteurs !
    Les disputes vont se régler des indemnisations dans les 2 sens, partiellement compensées !
    La certification civile, compliqué pour les papiers, mais ça avance !
    Les moteurs , les TPI400, tournent très bien, à part qq FOD, plutôt bien digérés !

    Bien, à part les délais et un ramp up de tortue ... tout va bien !

    ------------------ De AviationWeek, le lien, l'article ------------

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/asd/2011/03/16/17.xml&headline=A400M%20Agreement%20Paves%20Way%20For%20Engine%20Accord&channel=defense

    PARIS — Europrop International (EPI) and Airbus Military will reach agreement over compensation on engine-related delays with the A400M airlifter “within weeks” following progress between partner nations and management agency Occar toward a finalized, redefined program, a senior official says.

    Although financial terms of the agreement have yet to be officially disclosed, the two parties are thought to be negotiating a deal that offers a compromise between the €500 million ($698 million) reportedly sought by Airbus Military from EPI, and €425 million apparently wanted from Airbus by the engine maker. Settlement over the dispute, centered on development delays and blunders related to TP400-D6 engine control software certification, has been affected by delays in redefining the overarching program, says former EPI Executive Vice President Jacques Desclaux.

    “Negotiations were a little bit slowed down by the fact there was no agreement at the top level,” says Desclaux, who was appointed in January as chairman and chief executive of PowerJet, the Snecma and NPO Saturn commercial engine joint venture. Broad terms of the revised A400M program were agreed to in January between the nations and Occar (the European Organization for Joint Armament Cooperation), and “that process is close to the end,” Desclaux says, adding that “we are already working to the revised agreement.” Finalization of the financial deal with Airbus will come “within a few weeks,” he adds.

    Full-authority digital engine control (Fadec) software with full functionality is now flying on two of the four development aircraft, with software and A400M civil certification planned for the end of 2011. Formal approval of the civil certification of the engine is also due “within weeks” after the submission of around 200 reports to the European Aviation Safety Agency, Desclaux says. Although originally expected as early as last September, the final path to certification has been complicated by the need to show means of compliance for a large turboprop. The process, as developed for commercial turbofans, needed adapting and was “not well tuned for turboprops.” Despite this, Desclaux says the revised process does not “change anything to the engine or its operation.”

    The 11,000-shp TP400-D6 is performing well in flight tests and helping Airbus achieve a “high rate” of testing, Desclaux says. “At the aircraft level, Airbus is still confident of certification by the end of the year,” he adds. “From a fleet support perspective, we’re having very few events in terms of engine incidents.” However, Desclaux reveals that two engines have had to be removed owing to foreign object damage sustained during flight testing — one due to debris ingestion while operating on a non-prepared runway and the other due to a probable bird strike. “Nothing failed in the engine, and each time they were able to safely shut down the engine in a controlled way,” he says.

    EPI, which consists of partners ITP Group, MTU Aero Engines, Rolls-Royce and Snecma, expects to begin deliveries of initial production TP400s in April 2012, with two shipsets due for delivery by the end of the year. The number will double in 2013 as Airbus slowly ramps up A400M production. Taking lessons learned from the A380, the initial rate increase will be deliberately modest to enable any changes discovered during flight tests to be incorporated early. The rate increase will be more dramatic from 2014 onward, Desclaux adds.

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 25 Mar 2011 - 13:30

    Bonjour à tous

    Essais de VMU sur l'A400M qui a donc passé une partie de son temps les fesses posées au sol

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/03/25/354774/pictures-a400m-completes-low-speed-take-off-tests.html


    irbus Military has completed low-speed take-off tests with its A400M transport, with the work having provided a spectacular photo opportunity using one of its development aircraft.
    Performed at Istres in southern France, the process was intended to determine the A400M’s minimum unstuck speed – the lowest at which it can safely take off.
    “The aircraft’s nose was raised until a special ‘bumper’ fitted to the rear fuselage struck the ground at the maximum pitch-up angle of 13º,” Airbus Military says. The result exceeds its earlier assumption of a 12º limit which had been projected following previous tests conducted late last year.


    Both images © Airbus Military

    Four of an eventual five development aircraft are now involved in a range of flight test activities ahead of the A400M’s entry into operational use. Airbus Military should deliver its first of a current 174 production examples under contract in late 2012 or early 2013.

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 6 Avr 2011 - 23:09

    Bonjour à tous

    http://www.aerocontact.com/actualite_aeronautique_spatiale/ac-airbus-a400m---le-plan-de-financement-signe-jeudi-berlin~11778.html




    Le plan de financement définitif de l'Airbus A400M, le futur avion de transport militaire européen accusant déjà un retard de quatre ans, sera signé jeudi, a annoncé mercredi le ministère de la Défense allemand.

    Des sources proches du dossier avaient déjà dit mercredi à Reuters que les sept pays à l'origine du plus important programme de défense européen se réuniraient jeudi à Séville, lieu de fabrication de l'appareil, pour une cérémonie de signature.

    "Les pays A400M et les industriels veulent signer l'avenant au contrat demain à Seville", a dit à Reuters un porte-parole du ministère.

    Le principe de cet avenant, d'un montant de 3,5 milliards d'euros qui viennent s'ajouter à l'enveloppe initiale de 20 milliards, avait été conclu en mars 2010 pour éviter une annulation pure et simple du programme.

    (Sabine Siebold, Benoit Van Overstraeten pour le service français, édité par Nicolas Delame)


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    Message par Vortex Mer 6 Avr 2011 - 23:38

    Définitif ?
    20 + 3,5 = 23,5.
    Le compte est bon ?
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Jeu 7 Avr 2011 - 16:04

    Je ne sais pas

    Mais

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/04/07/355315/a400m-contract-amendment-signed-as-test-fleet-passes-1400-flight.html


    Airbus Military's A400M programme has received a key boost, with the 7 April signature of a contract amendment on the behalf of its seven European customers. The development comes as flight-testing of the transport has passed 1,400h in almost 450 sorties.
    Signed in Seville, Spain by Airbus Military chief executive Domingo Ureña and Patrick Bellouard, director of Europe's OCCAR procurement agency, the agreement clears the way for the production of a combined 170 aircraft. It also finalises the revised terms of a framework agreement made by the governments of Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain, Turkey and the UK on 5 March 2010 to proceed with the delayed project.
    EADS chief executive Louis Gallois welcomed the contract signature, citing the A400M as a "co-operation programme that represents a strategic capacity for Europe and its defence, and for the new generation of military transport worldwide."
    Four development aircraft are now involved in flight-test activities being staged from San Pablo airport near Seville and Toulouse, France. Roughly 500 flight hours have been accumulated by the fleet since early November 2010, with recent achievements having included making dry contacts with a Royal Air Force Vickers VC10 tanker and the completion of low-speed take-off tests (below).

    "We are very satisfied with the progress of the flight-test programme," says Ureña, who adds that the industrial programme is "on track" to deliver its first aircraft to launch operator the French air force in late 2012 or early 2013. The service had originally been due to accept its first example in October 2009.
    Meanwhile, the programme's fifth and last development aircraft is scheduled to make its first flight "in early fall", says Airbus Military. Work on MSN6 has already been completed on its San Pablo final assembly line.

    Sinon 1400 h de vols accumulées dont 500h depuis novembre
    Avion de développement n°5 prévu pour entrer dans la boucle à l'automne
    Avion n°6 de série fini (si je comprends bien)

    Bonne journée


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    Message par art_way Mar 3 Mai 2011 - 12:54


    Airbus Military a réglé le litige qui l'opposait aux motoristes qui équipent
    son avion de transport militaire A400M, dont le développement a connu
    des années de retard, a annoncé mardi le consortium de fabricants de
    moteurs.

    http://www.boursorama.com/infos/actualites/detail_actu_societes.phtml?num=726eede077f6a23d94dcef7585b9428e


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    Message par Beochien Mar 3 Mai 2011 - 14:38

    Bonjour !

    Merci Art Way !

    Pas trop de détails sur la ou les disputes .... retards, quantités ... etc !
    Bien avec du recul, je ne suis pas sûr que l'épisode des FADECS, ait changé grand chose aux retards et aux tonnes de trop ... AIRBUS A400 M - Page 20 812921

    Là non plus d'ailleurs, pas trop d'explication, une bonne couche de cosmétique, c'est tout !

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/05/03/356178/airbus-military-epi-resolve-a400m-engine-dispute.html

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 3 Mai 2011 - 15:20

    Reste la certification EASA du TP400 qu'on annonçait imminente courant mars...
    Peut-être que cet accord entre Airbus et EPI est un préliminaire à l'annonce de cette certif.
    Il me semble avoir lu qq part que le moteur faisait mieux que les specs, ce qui comme d'habitude veut tout et rien dire à la fois

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    Message par Beochien Mar 3 Mai 2011 - 15:33

    Ben oui ... si avec 5000 heures ... et des FADEC qui marchent bien ....de FG !

    EPI said that its 11,000shp (8,200kW) TP400 design has amassed over
    5,000 flight hours and "completed all certification testing". Civil
    certification is expected to be secured soon.
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 6 Mai 2011 - 23:08

    Je viens de me reveiller !

    L'A400M est assez similaire en gabarit au C141 de lockheed !
    Ce qui place bien la poussée équivalente du TP400 autour de 10t (22 000 lbs), un petit CFM56 donc. Wink


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    Message par Paul Sam 7 Mai 2011 - 0:28

    Bonjour,

    Petite question que je me pose : Le TP400 ayant été développé à 100% avec des fonds publics, est-ce qu'une éventuelle utilisation commerciale de celui-ci ne pourrait pas causer certains problèmes avec l'OMC ?
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    Message par aeroduO5 Mer 11 Mai 2011 - 14:53

    Ben potentiellement oui.
    Mais en ce qui concerne l'aéronautique, l'OMC a du mal à se faire respecter.
    En gros tout le monde touche et personne n'est blanc, donc c'est dur d'attaquer.
    Par exemple GE est aidée par les programmes militaires.
    Le CFM-56 et le CF 34 ont d'ailleurs d'abord été des moteurs militaires.
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 11 Mai 2011 - 15:11

    J'avoue n'avoir pas compris la remarque de Paul ?

    Pourquoi développé avec 100% de fonds publics ?
    Il a été développé pour un programme public, dans le cadre d'un contrat global de fourniture d'avions.
    EPI a peu être touché des avances, mais est-ce vraiment différent des autres programmes airbus ?

    Est-ce vraiment différent d'un cas où une cie lance un appel d'offre pour 200 avions moyens courriers, et qu'un avionneur y répond avec un avion nouveau qu'il se propose de développer dans les délais impartis ? C'est bien ce mécanisme qui est en jeu pour les "clients de lancement" non ?


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mer 18 Mai 2011 - 23:01

    Bonjour à tous

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3acc75bd33-f1ac-4781-a217-f77e1dc541cf&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest


    The French air force should received its first A400M ahead of schedule, says Domingo Urena, Airbus Military's CEO. “We hope to present the aircraft to the French in 2012 and we hope they will accept it,” he says.

    Speaking at the close of a two day press seminar in Seville and Madrid, Urena says the A400M program is now stabilised and on track and that flight tests showed it was performing “in some case beyond the expectations of the customer.”

    He concedes that Airbus Military “won't earn money with our launch clients,” but hopes to earn “decent money from exports.” But he stressed that they were remaining prudent for the moment on the export market although they would have 10 aircraft available (the 7 cancelled by Germany and the 3 by the UK) which “we will try to sell as soon as possible.”

    Livraison avancée à 2012 au lieu de fin T1 2013. La certif civile est prévue cette année et la définition militaire initiale n'est finalement pas très éloignée d'une version civile.
    Quand précisemment?
    A noter qu'airbus a 10 avions "sur les bras" provenant de la renégociation avec les différents pays du contrat


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    Message par Beochien Sam 11 Juin 2011 - 15:26

    Bonjour !

    Le DC d'Airbus military, voit un avenir radieux pour le A400 M ! Bel optimisme !
    Antonio Rodriguez Barberan, senior vice president of commercial business at Airbus Military

    Surtout quand ils auront récupéré 5-6 tonnes d'overweight !!!!!!!!!!
    Les poids, c'est devenu Tabou depuis 2 Ans !
    Maintenant que les clients l'ont accepté comme tel, on ne fait plus grand chose !
    Juste mon idée !

    A noter : Airbus ne s'intéresse pas au marché civil actuellement, c'est pour plus tard !
    Normal, le marché civil va demander 40 tonnes, au lieu de 30, dans les mêmes conditions, et hors military équipments, bonjour les weight ripoux (Enfin) dans qq années !

    Bon, c'est vrai que si personne ne s'avise de lancer de nouveaux avions,
    ils seront seuls dans 10 ou 20 ans, bel optimisme, tout (Presque) le marché serait donc pour le A400M !!!

    Noté , des slots "Militaires" pour 2015, ça c'est positif !

    ------------------- A lire quand même, chez Aviationweek -------------

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/ ... el=defense

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 21 Juin 2011 - 23:11

    Bon des nouvelles de l'A400M un peu malade de sa boite de transmission

    http://www.aerocontact.com/actualite_aeronautique_spatiale/ac-le-bourget-2011---l-a400m-victime-d-un-defaut-de-fabrication-d-un-elem~12272.html

    Ca vaut ce que ça vaut

    Défaut de fabrication donc


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 24 Juin 2011 - 23:39

    Bonjour à tous

    C'est pas bien clair, à creuser, mais les pays européens utilisateurs de l'A400M ont signé un MOU pour une maintenance commune (en tout cas au niveau des procédures et peut être de la gestion des pièces)

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/06/24/358793/paris-a400m-buyers-agree-common-support-framework.html



    European customers for the Airbus Military A400M have agreed a common set of measures to maintain a standard core configuration for their transports, as two of their number move closer to agreeing a more comprehensive joint in-service support model.
    Senior officials from Belgium, France, Germany, Spain and the UK signed a memorandum of understanding at the Paris air show to establish a collaborative system to support the new airlifter.
    “This agreement will provide a basis for common aircraft support activities with a view to maintaining a common configuration of the aircraft through life,” France’s DGA procurement agency said.
    The new agreement covers a common set of activities which all partner nations will pursue to addresses configuration and data management issues for the A400M. It also includes “an opportunity for common spares management”, the DGA said. “It is expected that Turkey will add its signature to this MoU in the coming weeks,” it added.
    Europe’s OCCAR procurement agency will advance the new agreement by signing contracts linked to specific support activities on behalf of partner nations Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain, Turkey and the UK.

    © Airbus Military

    Announced on 23 June, the MoU will also provide the framework for a proposed joint in-service support model to be adopted by France and the UK. Their collaboration is likely to include factors such as maintenance, repair and overhaul and main operating base support activities linked to their combined 72 A400Ms.
    Airbus Military last month revealed that it had proposed a joint services proposal to France and the UK based on a “mission-success concept”. This would see air force personnel from both countries make initial use of the company’s training centre near Seville, Spain, with national training centres also to be established in partnership with Thales.
    MRO services for French aircraft would be provided by SIAE under its proposal, with a competition to be staged to select a partner in the UK. The latter opportunity would be likely to attract interest from companies such as Cobham Aviation Services and Marshall Aerospace.
    Airbus Military expects to deliver its first production example of the A400M to the French air force by March 2013. The company will deliver 170 of the aircraft to its launch customers, plus four to export customer Malaysia.


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