Airbus A330-200F undergoes rejected take-off testing
By [url=mailto://]Jon Ostrower[/url]
The first Airbus A330-200F underwent rejected takeoff testing today ahead of its scheduled 5 November maiden flight. The
RTO tests, which took place at the European airframer's Toulouse
facility, were part of a final series of checkouts on the aircraft's
brakes and thrust reversers. Abu Dhabi-based Etihad Airways will take delivery of its first A330-200F in the third quarter of 2010. Airbus holds 67 firm orders from nine customers for the new freighter.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/04/334394/pictures-airbus-330-200f-undergoes-rejected-take-off-testing.html
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AIRBUS A330-F
art_way- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°26
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour à tous,
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- Message n°27
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour
Je mets le lien pour suivre l'événement
Bonne journée
http://www.airbus.com/en/myairbus/events/airbus_live.html
Je mets le lien pour suivre l'événement
Bonne journée
http://www.airbus.com/en/myairbus/events/airbus_live.html
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- Message n°29
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
voici une vidéo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkV2f31wFt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkV2f31wFt4
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- Message n°30
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonsoir à tous :
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/05/334463/airbus-throws-a330-200f-straight-into-flight-test-regime-during-maiden.html
Voilà voilà quelques détails !
FL41 ! pour le premier vol.
Bonne soirée
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/05/334463/airbus-throws-a330-200f-straight-into-flight-test-regime-during-maiden.html
Airbus throws A330-200F straight into flight-test regime during maiden sortie
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Airbus put the A330-200 Freighter through an intense test regime during its first flight earlier today, operating the aircraft up to its maximum speed and altitude and testing its revised nose landing gear arrangement.
“We flew the aircraft to 41,000ft [12,500m] and to the maximum speed of 330kt [610km/h],” says Airbus test pilot Philippe Perrin, who captained the first flight. “We also flew the aircraft down to its lowest speed – ‘Alpha Max’.”
Part of the reason to operate to the maximum altitude was to evaluate the sealing of the large maindeck cargo door, says Perrin: “The pressure held very well.”
Alongside Perrin for the 3h 50min flight was co-pilot Martin Scheuermann and test-flight engineers Wolfgang Brueggemann, Stephane Vaux and Pascal Verneau.
Perrin says that the crew were keen to test the modified nose-gear arrangement, which incorporates an external blimp fairing to accommodate the lower leg attachment. The revised attachment is needed to ensure the aircraft sits level on the ground for loading.
“We wanted to check the operation of the new doors, which behaved very nicely,” he says, adding that there were no noise or buffet issues with the fairing.
When it returned to land from its maiden sortie, the A330 flew two autoland approaches, including a late go-around and a touch-and-go, before making a full-stop landing.
Perrin says that during the A330-200F will be operated in “extreme flight configurations” during the 4-5 month flight-test programme. Part of the trials will be used to extend the A330’s centre of gravity (CofG) by 3% over the passenger version, to improve flexibility when loading freight pallets of varying weights throughout the aircraft’s maindeck cargo bay.
The 180h flight-test programme is due to be culminate in simultaneous European Aviation Safety Agency and US Federal Aviation Administration certification in March. First delivery to launch customer Etihad Airways will take place in August.
Voilà voilà quelques détails !
FL41 ! pour le premier vol.
Bonne soirée
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- Message n°31
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Je complète sur l'A330F
Premier vol en motorisation PW
Ca devrait normalement être un Advantage 70.
Quelqu'un peut il le confirmer ?
Bonne soirée
(Promis j'arrête sur l'A330-200F)
Premier vol en motorisation PW
Ca devrait normalement être un Advantage 70.
Quelqu'un peut il le confirmer ?
Bonne soirée
(Promis j'arrête sur l'A330-200F)
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- Message n°32
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonsoir
Pas mal de bruit ces derniers temps autour de l'A330-300F !
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/11/334645/serious-interest-in-a330-300f-from-cargo-integrators.html
La version -300F disposerait d'un volume important qui pourrait intéresser les messageries. FEDEX, UPS, une niche mais une niche de grande taille.
Dans la gamme 60-65 t de charge utile
Reste à savoir pour Airbus si une conversion PAx 2 Freight suffira ou un Freight direct.
Bonne soirée
Pas mal de bruit ces derniers temps autour de l'A330-300F !
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/11/334645/serious-interest-in-a330-300f-from-cargo-integrators.html
Serious interest in A330-300F from cargo integrators: Airbus
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Airbus is seeing “serious interest” from cargo integrators such as FedEx Express for a higher volume package freighter based on the A330-300 airframe. It is evaluating whether to tackle this requirement with a new-build freighter or a “P2F” conversion of passenger aircraft.
“With the integrators there’s a lot of interest in the A330-300F – both new-build and P2F aircraft,” says Airbus freighter marketing manager Jonathan Lesieur.
“They have a requirement for higher volume – not necessarily higher payload – at lower densities, so they are looking seriously at the A330-300.”
While the smaller A330-200F with its higher payload and longer range could also find its way into the integrators’ fleets, Lesieur says it is more likely to have a niche role. “However, a niche in FedEx or UPS is still big numbers,” he points out.
Although the detailed specification for the proposed A330-300F is still being completed, Lesieur estimates that both the new-build and P2F version would have a payload in the 60-65t range, compared with 64-69t for the -200F. “The -300F will have just under 20% greater volume than the -200F,” he adds.
“We are looking at the business case to decide which we should launch first, the -300F or -300P2F,” says Lesieur.
The new-build version A330-300F is likely to have the modified landing gear and blister fairing of the -200F to ensure that the cargo bay is level during loading.
However, for the P2F version, Airbus is proposing a jacking system to raise the nose.
La version -300F disposerait d'un volume important qui pourrait intéresser les messageries. FEDEX, UPS, une niche mais une niche de grande taille.
Dans la gamme 60-65 t de charge utile
Reste à savoir pour Airbus si une conversion PAx 2 Freight suffira ou un Freight direct.
Bonne soirée
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jullienaline- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°33
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonsoir à tous,
Quelques photos panoramiques sympas de l'A330F.
http://www.360degres.info/airbus/index.html
Amicalement
Quelques photos panoramiques sympas de l'A330F.
http://www.360degres.info/airbus/index.html
Amicalement
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- Message n°34
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour à tous
Quelques petits compléments sur l'A330-200F
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/aircraft-pictures/2009/11/a330-200f-courier-area-layout.html
Quelques petits compléments sur l'A330-200F
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/aircraft-pictures/2009/11/a330-200f-courier-area-layout.html
A330-200F Courier Area Layout
By
Will Horton on November 22, 2009 8:35 AM
Here is the layout of the courier area on the new A330-200F.
In other A330-200F news:
Airbus is on track to deliver the first A330-200 Freighter to launch customer Etihad Crystal Cargo next summer following the first flight of the development aircraft earlier this month.
The A330-200F took to the air on 5 November. This aircraft (MSN 1004), which is Pratt & Whitney PW4000-powered, will fly the 180h flight-test programme. The first aircraft for Etihad (MSN 1032), which is Rolls-Royce Trent 700-powered, is in build and will be used for final checks ahead of delivery in August.
Voilà voilàBonne lecture
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- Message n°35
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonsoir
En complément
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/15/334845/dubai-09-etihads-airbus-a330-200f-on-track-for-august-delivery.html
Le premier vol de l'A330-200F a été réalisé en PW4000
La version Trent700 sera également utilisée pour le programme d'essai en fin de celui-ci. Elle sera testée "finalisée", l'avion de test sera à ce que je comprends un avion de série
La machine qui a déjà volé devra être remise à niveau à l'issue de la campagne.
Points à valider :
a) acoustique et confort thermique de l'espace courrier (c.f. message d'avant) ça sera pour le MSN1032 à motorisaiton Trent
b) validation de l'extension du centrage (+3% par rapport à la version PAX) ce qui donne plus de souplesse pour le chargement du fret
Intéressant : 500 kg sur l'A330 c'est 0.3 à 0.5% de moins sur la consommation de carburant.
Incidemment, ceci qui peut donner une idée de la pénalité pour le surpoids du 787 (de même gabarit global)
Bonne lecture
En complément
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/15/334845/dubai-09-etihads-airbus-a330-200f-on-track-for-august-delivery.html
Dubai 09: Etihad’s Airbus A330-200F on track for August delivery
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Airbus is on track to deliver the first A330-200 Freighter to launch customer Etihad Crystal Cargo next summer following the first flight of the development aircraft earlier this month.
The A330-200F took to the air on 5 November. This aircraft (MSN 1004), which is Pratt & Whitney PW4000-powered, will fly the 180h flight-test programme. The first aircraft for Etihad (MSN 1032), which is Rolls-Royce Trent 700-powered, is in build and will be used for final checks ahead of delivery in August.
"The first aircraft will be used for two phases of test programme - for example performance calibration, handling and systems such as autopilot and smoke detection," says Airbus freighter marketing manager Jonathan Lesieur. "We'll use the first delivered aircraft for the third phase, as it will have a courier area, for specific tests such as noise, air conditioning in the courier area and the functioning of the CIDS [cabin communication system]."
Ahead of the -200F's first take-off, some ground and flight-testing was carried out using passenger A330s, says Lesieur. "We flew around 10 test flights with passenger aircraft to carry out initial tests on systems," he adds.
He says that these included measuring temperatures in the lower deck with the main deck at 5°C (41°F), as well as ground testing of the fuel system and validation of the fuel control computer. "We also tested the handling qualities when simulating the freighter's extended centre of gravity," says Lesieur.
The A330's centre of gravity is being extended by 3% over the passenger version to improve flexibility when loading freight pallets of varying weights throughout the main deck cargo bay.
Airbus test pilot Philippe Perrin, who commanded the first flight, says that the crew were keen to test the modified nose-gear arrangement during the maiden sortie. This incorporates a blister fairing to accommodate the lower leg attachment needed to ensure the aircraft sits level on the ground for loading.
"We wanted to check the operation of the new doors, which behaved very nicely," says Perrin, adding that there were no noise or buffet issues with the fairing.
The 64-69t payload freighter variant is due for simultaneous European Aviation Safety Agency and US Federal Aviation Administration certification in March.
Lesieur says the five-month interval to the first delivery is as a result of the slackening in demand for cargo aircraft combined with the high demand for passenger A330 versions.
"This meant that slots that would have been built as freighters will be delivered as passenger aircraft, but we decided to maintain the -200F's original industrial and certification schedule."
Once testing is complete MSN 1004 will be reworked for a customer and Lesieur says Airbus is in "advanced negotiations" to place the aircraft.
The A330-200F has come in around 500kg (1,100lb) lighter than expected, which Lesieur says can be used to increase the payload or "to translate into approximately 0.3-0.5% lower fuel burn".
Airbus, which holds orders and commitments for 69 aircraft from 10 customers, says that the new variant's original launch customer, India's Flyington Freighters, still holds 12 orders, but its deliveries have been "pushed back". The airframer forecasts demand for 1,600 in the A330-200F's mid-size freighter category over the next 20 years.
Le premier vol de l'A330-200F a été réalisé en PW4000
La version Trent700 sera également utilisée pour le programme d'essai en fin de celui-ci. Elle sera testée "finalisée", l'avion de test sera à ce que je comprends un avion de série
La machine qui a déjà volé devra être remise à niveau à l'issue de la campagne.
Points à valider :
a) acoustique et confort thermique de l'espace courrier (c.f. message d'avant) ça sera pour le MSN1032 à motorisaiton Trent
b) validation de l'extension du centrage (+3% par rapport à la version PAX) ce qui donne plus de souplesse pour le chargement du fret
Intéressant : 500 kg sur l'A330 c'est 0.3 à 0.5% de moins sur la consommation de carburant.
Incidemment, ceci qui peut donner une idée de la pénalité pour le surpoids du 787 (de même gabarit global)
Bonne lecture
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art_way- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°36
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Premier vol de l'A330-200F avec des RR Trent 700
First Trent-powered A330 freighter starts flight tests
By David Kaminski-Morrow
Airbus has conducted the first flight of a Rolls-Royce-powered
A330-200 freighter, bringing a second airframe into the twin-jet's test
programme.
The aircraft, MSN1032, fitted with Trent 700 engines, carried out a three-hour maiden flight today.
Airbus has so far performed tests with a Pratt & Whitney
PW4000-powered example, which first flew on 5 November last year. The
jet has recently been undergoing autopilot and autoland tests, and has
been switched to cold- and hot-weather trials.
As well as being fitted with Trent engines the second aircraft is
the first to be equipped with the full 'courier' interior section which
provides seating for six passengers. The aircraft also has a galley and
crew rest zone.Development work on this example will include tests on furnishings
Airbus
and systems for communication, power distribution, air conditioning,
smoke detection, plus oxygen, water and waste.
The airframer expects the A330-200F certification programme to include 200hr of flight tests.
Certification of the jet is "on track" for March, says Airbus, with
initial deliveries to Etihad Airways' cargo division in summer.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/01/20/337377/picture-first-trent-powered-a330-freighter-starts-flight-tests.html
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- Message n°37
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour à tous,
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/01/28/337771/pictures-a330-freighter-undergoes-cold-weather-tests.html
Test en condition froide de l'A330 au canada
En attendant les tests chauds et humides du côté singapour...
Quelques photos sympas sous le lien.
Il ne s'agit de tests pour la certification (ceux de la version PAx doivent suffire ?), mais de tests pour s'assurer que le produit répond aux attentes du client...
Deux cycles de congélation de la soute (-27°C) pendant la nuit avec démarrage des systèmes et réchauffage de la cabine...
Succès
Bonne soirée
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/01/28/337771/pictures-a330-freighter-undergoes-cold-weather-tests.html
PICTURES: A330 freighter undergoes cold-weather tests
By David Kaminski-Morrow
Airbus has undertaken cold-weather testing of its A330-200 freighter in northern Canada, and is being prepared for hot-weather trials in the Asia-Pacific region.
The first flight-test aircraft, MSN1004, was flown to Iqaluit on 23 January and subjected to temperatures down to minus 30°C.
Airbus says that the testing is not for certification but to verify system performance guarantees to customers, and check the response of modifications introduced during the freighter's development.
These include checks on the main cargo door, following cold-soak of the twin-jet to minus 27°C inside the cabin, as well as the auxiliary power unit and electrical systems.
Airbus/Chris Windeyer
Technical personnel also tested the air conditioning system, notably its ability to restore the cabin to a specific temperature.
The main tests began at about 06:00 on 24 January with start-up through external electrical power and activation of the APU, says Airbus flight-test engineer Wolfgang Brueggemann.
Three hours of system checks followed before the aircraft was shut down again ahead of a second overnight cold-soak. Airbus then carried out a second series of test procedures, similar to those on the previous day, before the aircraft departed.
Brueggemann says the results of the tests were "very good" and that all the aircraft's systems behaved well.
Airbus is fitting the aircraft's interior with a partial cargo loading system and is preparing to fly the jet to Asia where it will undergo another set of tests in hot and humid conditions.
Test en condition froide de l'A330 au canada
En attendant les tests chauds et humides du côté singapour...
Quelques photos sympas sous le lien.
Il ne s'agit de tests pour la certification (ceux de la version PAx doivent suffire ?), mais de tests pour s'assurer que le produit répond aux attentes du client...
Deux cycles de congélation de la soute (-27°C) pendant la nuit avec démarrage des systèmes et réchauffage de la cabine...
Succès
Bonne soirée
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Poncho (Admin)- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°38
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour à tous
Bonne nouvelle pour l'A330-200F
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/09/340476/easa-certifies-a330-200f-for-70t-payload.html
Certification européenne pour une charge utile de 70T (au lieu de 69T annoncé jusqu'à présent...).
Il a de beaux restes l'A330
Bonne journée
Bonne nouvelle pour l'A330-200F
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/09/340476/easa-certifies-a330-200f-for-70t-payload.html
Airbus has secured European certification for its A330-200 freighter, with the twin-jet attaining a slightly higher payload capability than originally expected.
It has obtained European Aviation Safety Agency certification after putting the aircraft through a 200hr flight-test regime. The tests involved airframes equipped with both Rolls-Royce and Pratt & Whitney engines.
Airbus says the aircraft has achieved a payload capability of 70t. The airframer has previously specified a 69t payload over 3,200nm (5,930km) or 64t over 4,000nm (7,400km).
It states that the higher payload follows "some design optimisation".
"With the freighter market already showing signs of recovery, rising by 20% so far this year, we now have a great new aircraft to offer customers," says Airbus' A330 chief engineer Christian Favre.
EASA has certified the aircraft by amending the type certificate for the passenger version of the A330-200. Airbus expects corresponding certification from the US FAA.
Certification européenne pour une charge utile de 70T (au lieu de 69T annoncé jusqu'à présent...).
Il a de beaux restes l'A330
Bonne journée
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aubla- Whisky Quebec
- Message n°39
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour,
A quelques mois de sa mise en service chez Etihad Crystal Cargo, un article de Max Kingsley-Jones qui retrace la genèse de l'A330-200F durant ces 10 dernières années.
Intéressant.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/05/20/342231/airbuss-general-freight-hauler-a330-200f-technical.html
Bonne journée
Cordialement
A quelques mois de sa mise en service chez Etihad Crystal Cargo, un article de Max Kingsley-Jones qui retrace la genèse de l'A330-200F durant ces 10 dernières années.
Intéressant.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/05/20/342231/airbuss-general-freight-hauler-a330-200f-technical.html
Bonne journée
Cordialement
macintosh- Whisky Quebec
- Message n°40
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour,
Merci, Article très intéressant, en particulier retour sur historique, et sur les liens entre développement du F et des versions passager.
Merci, Article très intéressant, en particulier retour sur historique, et sur les liens entre développement du F et des versions passager.
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- Message n°41
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour Aubla
Effectivement très intéressant article…
Je retiens quelques éléments spécifiques à l’A332F et pas mal d’autres liés à la famille A330Pax… (message à suivre)
Pour l’A332F on voit bien
1) l’intérêt du Fly by Wire qui permet pas mal de souplesse pour reconfigurer l’avion, notamment pour prendre en charge pas mal de charge en avant de l’aile… augmentation des tolérances de centrage
2) beaucoup de travail sur la cellule actuelle pour l’optimisation, notamment au niveau des planchers, avec l’introduction de fibre de carbone
3) l’optimisation en poids permettant le gain de 1 t déjà annoncé et dont l’impact sur la charge utile sera validé dès qu’il sera confirmé que les 3 premiers appareils sont bien conformes à cette estimation
4) l’optimisation de l’avion à sa mission en reprenant le système de carburant de l’A330-300 pour ne pas être pénalisé par la nécessité d’inertage du réservoir central
5) le fameux blister n’a pas d’incidence en terme de trainée et d’acoustique… -> intéressant car je le rappelle, ce blister permet un gain de garde au sol non négigleable qui peut être valorisé différemment : meilleurs résistance aux FOD ou marge de remotorisation ?
Intéressant de rappeler que l’A332F ne propose pas une grosse amélioration en volume utile par rapport à l’A300-600F, mais une amélioration importante en charge utile et en distance franchissable.
L’offre A332F se positionne en terme d’allonge au même niveau que les plus gros modules (MD11, 747F, etc) mais à une taille plus réduite
L’offre A332F n’est revanche pas très bien adaptée à la messagerie, d’où l’étude en parallèle aux développement de cette version d’un A333P2F qui pourrait incorporer une grosse partie des solutions de l’A332F
Bonne lecture
Effectivement très intéressant article…
Je retiens quelques éléments spécifiques à l’A332F et pas mal d’autres liés à la famille A330Pax… (message à suivre)
Pour l’A332F on voit bien
1) l’intérêt du Fly by Wire qui permet pas mal de souplesse pour reconfigurer l’avion, notamment pour prendre en charge pas mal de charge en avant de l’aile… augmentation des tolérances de centrage
2) beaucoup de travail sur la cellule actuelle pour l’optimisation, notamment au niveau des planchers, avec l’introduction de fibre de carbone
One example of how weight was saved was the switch from glassfibre to carbonfibre for the floor panel material. Overall, the A330-200F incorporates some 9t of advanced materials (carbonfibre, glassfibre and quartzfibre reinforced plastic), which are used in areas such as the flaps, the fin and tailplane, the belly faring, gear doors, radome and engine cowlings.
3) l’optimisation en poids permettant le gain de 1 t déjà annoncé et dont l’impact sur la charge utile sera validé dès qu’il sera confirmé que les 3 premiers appareils sont bien conformes à cette estimation
The success of the programme allowed Airbus to announce at the time of the first flight that the -200F's empty weight had turned out to be 1t less than originally forecast. This improvement went straight to the bottom line, boosting the maximum payload from the 69t originally forecast to 70t.
"We have already weighed one aircraft and we are well within this," says Favre. "Once we have weighed three we will be perfectly sure to confirm this to the customers and incorporate it in the offers."
4) l’optimisation de l’avion à sa mission en reprenant le système de carburant de l’A330-300 pour ne pas être pénalisé par la nécessité d’inertage du réservoir central
The A330-200's centre tank is deactivated on the -200F to save the weight of the inerting system, reducing fuel capacity by 41,560 litres. However it is offered as an option.
5) le fameux blister n’a pas d’incidence en terme de trainée et d’acoustique… -> intéressant car je le rappelle, ce blister permet un gain de garde au sol non négigleable qui peut être valorisé différemment : meilleurs résistance aux FOD ou marge de remotorisation ?
Intéressant de rappeler que l’A332F ne propose pas une grosse amélioration en volume utile par rapport à l’A300-600F, mais une amélioration importante en charge utile et en distance franchissable.
L’offre A332F se positionne en terme d’allonge au même niveau que les plus gros modules (MD11, 747F, etc) mais à une taille plus réduite
"For the first time, with the A330-200F there is a competitor in the midsize payload category that has range equivalent to the larger long-haul freighters, but offering better unit costs," says Airbus's freighter marketing manager Jonathan Lesieur. He believes that the current environment of rising fuel cost and low yields will attract customers to the A330 from the fuel-thirsty DC-10 trijets.
L’offre A332F n’est revanche pas très bien adaptée à la messagerie, d’où l’étude en parallèle aux développement de cette version d’un A333P2F qui pourrait incorporer une grosse partie des solutions de l’A332F
Bonne lecture
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art_way- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°42
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Airbus believes that the increasing cost of fuel will help draw demand for its
A330-200
Freighter from operators of McDonnell
Douglas DC-10Fs, a target replacement market for the new cargo
widebody.
The airframer's freighter marketing manager Jonathan Lesieur concedes
that in a low fuel-cost environment the $190 million, 70t payload A330-200F
was a hard sell as a DC-10F replacement, but the picture is changing as
oil prices rise and cargo yields become more challenging.
"When fuel was at $1 a US gallon, it wasn't that easy for A330-200F's
lower operating costs to compensate its higher acquisition costs
compared with a DC-10F, which is approximately the same size in terms of
payload," he says.However, Lesieur says as fuel prices rise with no clear idea where
H. Gousse/Airbus
they will end up, the A330's lower fuel burn and associated operating
cost savings over the three-crew, DC-10
trijet are making it a much more attractive proposition.
"When fuel was at $1 per US gallon [26¢/litre] it required an annual
utilisation of 4,000h for the A330-200F's higher capital costs to be
offset by its lower operating costs over a DC-10F," he says. "But now
when fuel is at around $2.50/$3 per US gallon, this utilisation is
halved to 2,000h."
Flightglobal's ACAS database lists around 90 DC-10Fs in service, with
eight operators. The largest of these is US express package carrier
FedEx Express with 66 aircraft, but Airbus is pitching the A330-200F
more at general cargo operators, says Lesieur. "A lot of these DC-10
operators easily do 2,000h a year," he adds.
The express package carriers, which generally have lower cargo
densities and a greater focus on volume rather than payload/range
capability, are a target of the proposed passenger-to-freighter
conversion of the larger A330-300.
"This could carry 26 containers on the maindeck," says Lesieur.http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/05/21/342112/a330-200fs-prospects-as-dc-10-replacement-boosted-as-fuel-prices-rise.html
Je vois bien quelques appareils commandés pendant le salon de Farnborough
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- Message n°43
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Et le lancement du programme P2F... à priori les équipe de l'A332F vont être libérées... elles connaissent bien l'avion et il peut être intéressant de les mobiliser dans le foulée...
Les DC10 se font vieux, il doit y avoir encore quelques -10 en plus en circulation
Les DC10 se font vieux, il doit y avoir encore quelques -10 en plus en circulation
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aeroduO5- Whisky Quebec
- Message n°44
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour
1ère livraison imminente à Etihad
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/19/344648/farnborough-etihad-prepares-to-receive-first-a330-freighter.html
A priori c'est pour demain moteurs Trent 700 et 2 avions en commande.
Une jolie photo où l'on voit bien la modif sur les trappes de train avant. Ca donne une certaine personnalité à cet avion qui a de nombreuses qualités.
1ère livraison imminente à Etihad
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/19/344648/farnborough-etihad-prepares-to-receive-first-a330-freighter.html
A priori c'est pour demain moteurs Trent 700 et 2 avions en commande.
Une jolie photo où l'on voit bien la modif sur les trappes de train avant. Ca donne une certaine personnalité à cet avion qui a de nombreuses qualités.
Poncho (Admin)- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°45
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Et qui arrive finalement à un moment de reprise de l'activité cargo...
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- Message n°46
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Eh oui ça va booster les ventes, peut-être des commandes à Farnborough?
Quelqu'un a des idées?
Quelqu'un a des idées?
aeroduO5- Whisky Quebec
- Message n°47
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Ca y est c'est fait.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/20/344864/farnborough-etihad-takes-delivery-of-first-a330-200f.html
1ère livraison pour un déploiement en Septembre vers les routes Asiatiques et Africaines. 2 avions en commande mais d'autre pourraient suivre.
Quelqu'un sait-il si c'est la version 64t ou 69/70t qui a été commandée par Etihad?
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/20/344864/farnborough-etihad-takes-delivery-of-first-a330-200f.html
1ère livraison pour un déploiement en Septembre vers les routes Asiatiques et Africaines. 2 avions en commande mais d'autre pourraient suivre.
Quelqu'un sait-il si c'est la version 64t ou 69/70t qui a été commandée par Etihad?
Beochien- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°48
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour
Quatar Airways, continue son cinéma, pas forcément à tort d'ailleurs !
Réclamant à cors et à cris des kits de conversion fret pour ses "Vieux A330 "
Bon, qu'il envoie des ingénieurs pour aider Airbus , ou qu'il s'adresse aux Israéliens, ils sont experts !
------------- L'article de Flightglobal -------------
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/21/344898/farnborough-qatar-fires-warning-shot-at-airbus-over-a330.html
FARNBOROUGH: Qatar fires warning shot at Airbus over A330 conversions
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Qatar Airways is urging Airbus to quickly decide on its A330 cargo conversion strategy or risk losing its business to Boeing.
The airframer is apparently holding off from launching a conversion for fear of cannibalising the market for the new-build A330-200 Freighter.
The Doha-based airline is eager to conclude a deal to convert its older A330-200 passenger aircraft to freighters as they are replaced by 787s, the first of which is due to arrive in the second half of 2011.
The converted A330s would be operated by Qatar Airways' cargo arm, or placed with its newly created leasing arm, says chief executive Akbar Al Baker.
JPRS
Quatar Airways, continue son cinéma, pas forcément à tort d'ailleurs !
Réclamant à cors et à cris des kits de conversion fret pour ses "Vieux A330 "
Bon, qu'il envoie des ingénieurs pour aider Airbus , ou qu'il s'adresse aux Israéliens, ils sont experts !
------------- L'article de Flightglobal -------------
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/21/344898/farnborough-qatar-fires-warning-shot-at-airbus-over-a330.html
FARNBOROUGH: Qatar fires warning shot at Airbus over A330 conversions
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Qatar Airways is urging Airbus to quickly decide on its A330 cargo conversion strategy or risk losing its business to Boeing.
The airframer is apparently holding off from launching a conversion for fear of cannibalising the market for the new-build A330-200 Freighter.
The Doha-based airline is eager to conclude a deal to convert its older A330-200 passenger aircraft to freighters as they are replaced by 787s, the first of which is due to arrive in the second half of 2011.
The converted A330s would be operated by Qatar Airways' cargo arm, or placed with its newly created leasing arm, says chief executive Akbar Al Baker.
JPRS
Poncho (Admin)- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°49
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour à tous
Elle est intéressante celle là
Flyington veut ses 12 A332F
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4747560&c=ASI&s=AIR
Plusieurs choses...
D'abord : objectif 340 A332F sur les 20 prochaines années...
Ensuite : Flyington souhaite participer au rebond du fret et cherche à récupérer des slots qui lui ont peut-être échappé
Bonne ou mauvais foix ?
Bonne journée en tout cas.
Elle est intéressante celle là
Flyington veut ses 12 A332F
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4747560&c=ASI&s=AIR
NEW DELHI - A senior executive of Flyington Freighters, trying to establish itself as India's only long-haul cargo airline, said the delay in the U.S. Air Force aerial tanker contest is to blame in the late delivery of 12 A330-200 cargo aircraft his company ordered from Airbus.
The Hyderabad-based airline is threatening to sue Airbus for the delay, which has caused financial hardships, the executive said. The A330-200 deliveries were expected to begin in July 2008, but now, he said, Flyington fears the slippage will spill over into 2011.
"I believe Airbus intended to deliver the 12 A330-200 aircraft to Flyington only if successful in winning the U.S. Air Force contract and able to build these aircraft in Mobile, Ala.," where Airbus has pledged to build the U.S. aircraft if it wins that deal, he said. "My impression is that Airbus has only limited capacity in Toulouse and may be unable to build our 12 A330-200 aircraft [there]."
In France, however, an Airbus spokesman said, "We jointly agreed to postpone deliveries of aircraft. We are in ongoing dialogue with the customer."
There is clearly disagreement over the reasons for the delay in deliveries.
Flyington's planned commercial operations from India to destinations throughout Europe, West Asia and Africa now face uncertainty because of the delayed deliveries, the executive said.
An industry source said an agreement was reached to postpone deliveries of the A330 cargo aircraft after Flyington Freighters failed to launch operations with used aircraft as planned, which made it difficult for the company to make the pre-delivery payments for the Airbus aircraft. Such deposit payments are normally paid before production begins.
Airbus delivered Aug. 9 the first new-build A330 freighter aircraft to Etihad, the national airline of the United Arab Emirates, the Airbus spokesman said. Airbus expects to deliver four to five A330 freighters this year. The company estimates the total market for new-build mid-sized freighter aircraft at 340 units over the next 20 years, and a total 1,600 mid-sized cargo aircraft including conversions.
Airbus has sold 64 A330 freighters to 10 airlines worldwide. The aircraft company currently produces 8.5 aircraft a month on its final assembly line for the A330, in passenger and freighter versions, and the A340 airliner.
Airbus is examining the possibility of raising production of the A330. "There is upside potential, but no decision has been taken," the Airbus spokesman said. In September 2008, before the financial crisis broke out, Airbus had plans to build 10 A330 aircraft a month.
EADS North America is pitching the KC-30 converted tanker/freighter, a version of the A330-200 passenger aircraft, in the U.S. Air Force contest. Rival Boeing is offering the KC-767 Advanced Tanker, a modified version of its 767-200 long-range freighter.
Airbus, the Flyington executive said, wanted orders for the A330-200 to prove its viability to the U.S. Air Force.
"In hindsight, Airbus' aggressive pursuit of Flyington appears to have been driven by Airbus' strong interest in securing an A330-200 launch customer to unlock European Union launch air support and demonstrate to the U.S. Air Force that Airbus had a viable commercial variant for its proposed tanker," he said.
Flyington Freighters initially entered discussions with Boeing for the purchase of freighter aircraft, but it later switched to Airbus and in March 2007 ordered six A330-200s, which were scheduled for delivery beginning in July 2008.
"We held preliminary talks with Boeing, but opted for an Airbus fleet of freighters because the A330-200F offers low operating costs and significant operational benefits," the Flyington executive said. "The aircraft gives Flyington Freighters a solid springboard for success in the rapidly expanding Indian freighter market."
Plusieurs choses...
D'abord : objectif 340 A332F sur les 20 prochaines années...
Ensuite : Flyington souhaite participer au rebond du fret et cherche à récupérer des slots qui lui ont peut-être échappé
Bonne ou mauvais foix ?
Bonne journée en tout cas.
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- Message n°50
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Merci Poncho !
Je le suivais...
Et franchement, comme la plupart des cies Indiennes ... ça va ça vient, ça change d'avis tous les ans, souvent accrochés aux branches ... et au gvt !
Bon, Airbus a un an de retard pour le 330F, et comme il semble en plus donner des slots rapides aux 330 pax à qq clients ... aussi, car piquer des ventes a Boeing pour satisfaire des clients furieux, ça doit plaire a JL !
En gros, les 330F n'ont pas la priorité !
Et Flyington sent bien l'odeur des indemnisations ... pourquoi pas moi si c'est la mode !
Ils les auront ... s'ils doublent la cde, qu'ils deferreront peut être après ! Ca doit se négocier comme ça, à la JL !
Tout cela avec une théorie assez fumeuse, comme quoi, Airbus aurait attendu le marché Tankers pour lancer la production des A330F, à Mobile ...
Bof , savent plus quoi inventer !
JPRS
Je le suivais...
Et franchement, comme la plupart des cies Indiennes ... ça va ça vient, ça change d'avis tous les ans, souvent accrochés aux branches ... et au gvt !
Bon, Airbus a un an de retard pour le 330F, et comme il semble en plus donner des slots rapides aux 330 pax à qq clients ... aussi, car piquer des ventes a Boeing pour satisfaire des clients furieux, ça doit plaire a JL !
En gros, les 330F n'ont pas la priorité !
Et Flyington sent bien l'odeur des indemnisations ... pourquoi pas moi si c'est la mode !
Ils les auront ... s'ils doublent la cde, qu'ils deferreront peut être après ! Ca doit se négocier comme ça, à la JL !
Tout cela avec une théorie assez fumeuse, comme quoi, Airbus aurait attendu le marché Tankers pour lancer la production des A330F, à Mobile ...
Bof , savent plus quoi inventer !
JPRS
Poncho (Admin)- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°51
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Garder en tête que Flyington était client de lancement il me semble
Ils auraient conservé les créneaux ils auraient déjà un de ces bébés... vu qu'Etihad a été livré
Ils semblent avoir laissé passer le train et avoir un peu les boules (DOP)
Ils auraient conservé les créneaux ils auraient déjà un de ces bébés... vu qu'Etihad a été livré
Ils semblent avoir laissé passer le train et avoir un peu les boules (DOP)
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Paul- Whisky Quebec
- Message n°52
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Bonjour,
lisez ce commentaires de Leeham News à ce propos, c'est un peu plus claire :
http://leehamnews.wordpress.com/2010/08/17/indian-cargo-airline-says-a330fs-delayed-because-of-usaf-kc-x-competition/#comment-4384
lisez ce commentaires de Leeham News à ce propos, c'est un peu plus claire :
As with many things, there is much more to this story than meets the eye. During the Farnborough Air Show, we learned quite a bit about the back story of this. There is an underlying dispute between Airbus and Flyington, with Airbus threatening to cancel the Flyington order and keeping the progress payments made to date. Flyington threatened to sue, tying the issue to the tanker.
There is much more intrigue involved in the tanker tie-in alleged by Flyington, but what we learned about this was from another reporter (not Defense News) and we have to honor his efforts on this story, so we can’t go into it.
The Flyington order has been deferred to about 2014, another A330F customer tells us, who was offered the Flyington positions. This deferral was at Flyington’s request.
Six months ago, at the depth of the world cargo recession, we were told Flyington wanted to either sell its positions or cancel them. We emailed Flyington at the time but got no response.
The airline is a start-up and as we have seen, the airlines in India are under financial stress at the moment
http://leehamnews.wordpress.com/2010/08/17/indian-cargo-airline-says-a330fs-delayed-because-of-usaf-kc-x-competition/#comment-4384
Poncho (Admin)- Whisky Charlie
- Message n°53
Re: AIRBUS A330-F
Je disais autre chose ?
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