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    Message par pascal83 Lun 28 Nov 2011 - 19:45

    MSN075A380-861F-WWSSHL-7615Korean Air (5th)2011-05-16-FFDA
    2011-11-28
    (63rd)


    le 63 eme livré

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    Message par Beochien Ven 2 Déc 2011 - 22:31

    Bonsoir !

    Il reste un client possible à JL aux USA , pour d'éventuels A380 !
    United - Continental, pour son traffique vers l'Asie !
    Un jour, peut être, et sans trop se presser !

    De AviationWeek, par Darren Schannon .

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/avd/2011/12/02/01.xml&headline=Airbus%20Expects%20United%20To%20Place%20A380%20Order&channel=comm

    JPRS

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    Message par pascal83 Sam 3 Déc 2011 - 4:37

    MSN090A380-861F-WWSEA6-EDTEmirates (19th)2011-07-05-FFDA
    2011-12-02
    (64th)
    et de 64
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 6 Déc 2011 - 14:35

    Salut à tous

    Lu sur Twitter
    A priori dit par Keith Stonestreet pendant la conférence The Future of Air Transport

    -1 t sur le poids à vide des A380-800 sortant l'année prochaine par rapport à ceux sortant de la ligne aujourd'hui


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    Message par aeroduO5 Sam 10 Déc 2011 - 21:45

    C'est toujours bon à prendre.
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 16 Déc 2011 - 9:49

    Bonjour à tous

    Livraison du n012 qantas

    http://a380production.com/2011/12/74da/


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    Message par pascal83 Ven 16 Déc 2011 - 13:12

    MSN086A380-861F-WWSBA6-EDSEmirates (20th)2011-06-17-FF2011-12-16CTL
    il aurait été livré hier
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    Message par Beochien Ven 16 Déc 2011 - 13:46

    Finalement, on va vers combien de A380 pour 2011 ??
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    Message par pascal83 Ven 16 Déc 2011 - 13:55

    theoriquement un de plus que la prevision
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 16 Déc 2011 - 13:59

    Oui pour l'emirates il semble avoir été livré



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    Message par Beochien Ven 16 Déc 2011 - 14:07

    Pour Pascal !
    25-26-27 ... j'ai perdu le compte !
    Bien, maintenant 30 pour l'année qui vient ... ça ressemble à une vitesse de croisière acceptée (Et bien supérieure aux prises de commandes moyennes, incluant les annulations!)

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 16 Déc 2011 - 14:11

    Pour les 30 / ans

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/16/uk-airbus-a-idUSLNE7BF01K20111216

    A priori c'est n'est pas le rythme de croisière
    L'objectif est plutôt 45 /an à terme
    Mais il faut effectivement le carnet de commande qui va bien

    Cela, avec le prod stabilisée, il peut y avoir des effets secondaires vertueux

    good news


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 16 Déc 2011 - 14:15

    je mets l'extrait du lien précédent qui est intéressant

    Bregier was speaking to a closed meeting of analysts in London after the European planemaker delivered its 24th A380 for 2011 to Australia's Qantas (QAN.AX) late on Thursday.

    Airbus had previously predicted more than 25 A380 deliveries in 2012. Airlines pay on delivery for most of the value of the aircraft, which sells for $375 million at list prices before discounts typically available to customers.

    The A380, which went severely off schedule and financial target due to production problems in 2005 and 2006, is expected to make an operating profit before R&D in 2015, based on a euro at $1.35, Bregier said, according to a slide presentation.

    He said Airbus had reduced airframe production costs on the world's largest airliner to a level equivalent to 65 on an index where 100 represents the costs in 2009, according to a copy of the presentation issued online. EADS said it would issue a recording of this and other speeches after the two-day event.

    The index is expected to fall to 62 in 2012 and 61 in 2013.

    Bregier is expected to become chief executive of the world's largest commercial planemaker when key mandates come up for renewal in 2012, with the current chief executive Tom Enders stepping up to run parent EADS (EAD.PA).

    Bregier said another aircraft that has seen significant production problems, the Airbus A400M military airlifter, would receive its safety certification in the second quarter of 2012.

    The first European troop and heavy cargo transporter is in the assembly line and will be delivered to the French Air Force in March 2013 as agreed with purchasing nations, Airbus said. The aircraft is around four years late due to engine problems.

    Comme déjà indiqué, la prod sera rentable à partir de 2015 sans compter les coûts de RD (qui ont déjà été intégrés dans les comptes)


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    Message par pascal83 Sam 17 Déc 2011 - 7:00

    MSN086A380-861F-WWSBA6-EDSEmirates (20th)2011-06-17-FFDA
    2011-12-16
    (66th
    MSN036A380-841F-WWAMB-6137China Southern (2nd)2011-05-06-FFDA
    2011-12-16
    (67th)
    Objectif atteinds 25 a380 livré en 2011 mais peu etre une surprise un 26 eme pourrait etre livré en fin année celui de SIA ou Emirates Le MSN076 de SIA est en attente de livraison
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Sam 17 Déc 2011 - 22:48

    Salut Pascal

    Pour moi c'est 26 livraisons cette année malgré :
    -les pb avec le T900 (ou grâce à cela vu que certaines livraisons de 2010 ont souffert)
    -les pb de koitos
    -au moins deux têtes de série pour China Southern et Korean


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    Message par pascal83 Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 0:59

    Salut
    effectivement il y a 26 a380 livrée en 2011 donc il est possible de voir le 27 eme livré avant la fin de l'année
    Je donne la liste des MSN livrés en 2011
    31,35,36,39,50,52,55,58,59,61,62,63,64,65,66,68,69,70,71,74,75,77,80,83,86,90
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    Message par Beochien Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 16:19

    Bonjour !

    En plus, Pscal, ils est bien arrivé, le 2nd China Southern !
    Les Chinois sont tout contents ...
    Photos à l'appui !

    http://english.people.com.cn/102774/7680374.html


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Mar 20 Déc 2011 - 9:21

    Bonjour à tous

    spéculation pour les 30 A380 de l'année prochaine

    http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5318146/#35

    A priori il y aura le dernier pour SIA de la commande initiale en milieu d'année -> A voir la décision de SIA sur les options (au passage SIA n'aura eu aucun A380 "amélioré").

    Il y aura deux têtes de série pour le 8 et 9 ème client : Malaysian et Thai



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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Jeu 5 Jan 2012 - 10:15

    bonjour à tous

    http://a380production.com/2012/01/92ro/

    Le dernier A380-800 de SIA est sorti de la FAL -> livraison cette année donc
    On va voir ce que va faire SIA avec ses options
    Ils n'auront pas profité des dernières améliorations apportées à la bête


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Jeu 5 Jan 2012 - 10:57

    Rebonjour

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/avd/2012/01/05/04.xml&headline=Damaged%20Qantas%20A380%20Will%20Return%20In%20March&channel=comm

    Retour de l'A380 endommagé au service de Qantas en mars
    Prix de la réparation presque 130 m $
    Boulot assumé par Airbus il semble

    Sacré expérience quand même

    Bonne journée


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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Jeu 5 Jan 2012 - 17:06

    Je ne croyais pas si bien dire

    En démontant nancy, airbus a pu voir des petites fissures sur les raidisseurs des ailes
    A priori rien de méchant
    Pas de pb pour attendre la grosse révision des 4 ans sans limitation opérationnelle
    Vu avec l'EASA

    A voir donc l'AD quand elle sortira

    L'avion de qantas, les avions d'essais et un avion de SIA sont concernés à ce stade
    Nancy n'avait que 2 ans

    http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/cracks-found-in-a380s-during-qantas-repairs-20120105-1pmyv.html

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=mro&id=news/awx/2012/01/05/awx_01_05_2012_p0-411418.xml&headline=A380%20Wing%20Cracks%20Not%20Affecting%20Operations


    THE discovery of tiny cracks in one of the wings of a Qantas A380 under extensive repair in Singapore has led to the detection of similar problems in four other Airbus superjumbos worldwide.

    The cracks - less than a centimetre long - in the wing ribs of the A380s do not pose an immediate threat to the safety of the aircraft. The ribs are vertical fixtures that stabilise the wings.

    But their detection is expected to prompt Airbus to issue a service bulletin to airlines later this month requiring them to check for the problem when their A380s are due for heavy maintenance every four years.

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    Engineers only discovered the cracks in the wing ribs of the Qantas A380 - named the Nancy Bird-Walton - while they were conducting $130 million in repair work on the aircraft at Changi Airport.

    Their initial suspicion was that the cracks - with a width hardly visible to the naked eye - were caused by the A380's mid-air engine explosion shortly after take off from Singapore in November 2010.

    But subsequent investigations have found this was not the case and engineers have discovered similar cracks on three Airbus test aircraft and one operated by Singapore Airlines.

    The cause of the cracks in the Nancy Bird-Walton's wing is still to be determined but an initial assessment is believed to pin the blame more on the way the wing ribs were constructed rather than due to the loads and thrust at which the aircraft was operated by Qantas.

    The Nancy Bird-Walton had only been in service for two years when the engine exploded.

    Qantas confirmed yesterday that ''minuscule cracking'' was found in the wing ribs of the Nancy Bird-Walton but it was ''not unique to Qantas''.

    ''No immediate action is required by A380 operators because the cracking presents no risk whatsoever to flight safety,'' a spokesman said.

    ''Formal guidance is being developed by Airbus that is likely to require A380 operators to inspect wing ribs for this type of cracking every four years - in line with scheduled maintenance checks. Qantas will comply fully with this guidance when it is published.''

    Singapore Airlines confirmed yesterday a ''small number of cracks'' had been found on the wing rib feet of one of its A380s during an investigation in the second half of last year.

    The cracks in the Qantas A380 have since been fixed, but other repair work to get the aircraft back into service is not expected to be finished until March.

    Qantas has a further 11 superjumbos in its fleet which fly long-haul international routes to London and Los Angeles.

    It will take delivery of two A380s next year but has deferred orders for a further six superjumbos by up to six years. Airbus declined to comment yesterday.



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    Message par Beochien Jeu 5 Jan 2012 - 17:41

    Mes Excuses Poncho, on s'est un peu croisé Embarassed !
    JP
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Jeu 5 Jan 2012 - 17:44

    pas grave
    Il est bien placé aussi !


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    Message par Beochien Jeu 5 Jan 2012 - 17:46

    Oui, vu aussi par le Cousin sur Aweb ...
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    Message par Beochien Ven 6 Jan 2012 - 13:35

    Bonjour !

    C'est fait d'aprés Reuters !
    10 A380-800 pour Hong Kong Airlines !
    Délivrables à partir de 2015, pas mal !
    Pas d'infos "Moteur" pour l'instant.
    Et qq inquiètudes pour Kingfisher (Rien de nouveau)

    ------------- De Bloomberg, un extrait, et le lien ------------

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-06/airbus-wins-bulk-order-for-a380s-from-hong-kong-airlines.html

    Airbus, the world’s largest passenger-jet maker, won a contract from Hong Kong Airlines Ltd. (HKAIRZ) for 10 double decker A380s, valued at about $38 billion at list prices.

    The planemaker plans to deliver the first A380 to the Chinese airline, backed by HNA Group, in 2015, Kenneth Thong, head of corporate governance and international affairs at the carrier, said in an interview today. Airbus spokesman Stefan Schaffrath declined to comment on orders in advance of a Jan. 17 press conference.

    The orders lifts Airbus’s A380 backlog to 188 planes, amid doubts surrounding Kingfisher Airlines Ltd. (KAIR)’s ability to proceed with its planned purchase of five A380s. The Indian airline has reduced flights and in late 2011 deferred delivery of its orders,which include five Airbus A350-800s, 15 A330s, and 24 A320s, to preserve cash.

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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 6 Jan 2012 - 13:42

    Ca serait pas mal dans les rumeurs ça non ? Wink

    Merci en tout cas
    Maintenant il faut 10-15 commandes par ans à Airbus pour maintenir le carnet de commande pour les 2-3 prochaines années en attendant les variantes
    De toute manière, cet avion est parti pour durer, à défaut d'être bcp vendu


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    Message par Beochien Ven 6 Jan 2012 - 14:03

    Ben, ça a l'air gagné, selon Bloomberg, bien que pas confirmé par Airbus !

    Airbus, the world’s largest passenger-jet maker, won a contract from Hong Kong Airlines Ltd. (HKAIRZ) for 10 double decker A380s, valued at about $38 billion at list prices.
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    Message par Poncho (Admin) Ven 6 Jan 2012 - 14:06

    Et si je repointe vers ça

    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airbus-poised-to-start-building-new-higher-weight-a380-variant-341926/

    En mai 2010


    The new version features a 4t increase in maximum take-off weight to 573t and an additional 190km (100nm) range that will enable it to fly distances of 15,360km on MTOW-limited missions. Maximum landing weight and maximum zero fuel weight have also each increased by 2t, and structural payload capability rises by 1.5t on MZFW-limited missions.

    +2t de MZFW et +1.5 t de Charge utile structurale, ça se traduit par une augmentation du poids à vide de 500 kg ?
    On nous annnonce (via twitter) que les A380 de cette année seront plus légers d'une tonne !
    Que comprendre


    To achieve the operating weight increases the airframe structure has been strengthened, which will become standard on aircraft delivered from 2013, although the higher operating weights will be offered as an option. According to Williams the increases are made possible through reductions in flight loads, which are partly achieved by the optimisation of the fly-by-wire control laws.

    This new A380 build standard will be introduced later this year when assembly begins of the first wings at Airbus's Broughton, UK plant, and these will also incorporate a 1.5° increase in twist to further optimise aerodynamics as part of the improvement package. Airbus says that the upgrade does not require any thrust bumps, and is not capable of retrofit to earlier build aircraft.

    Donc à priori cette nouvelle aile est déjà en service ?


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